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| Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 08:57 am |
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another photo Attachment removed by request of author. Last edited on Sunday April 15th, 2007 10:05 am by ronin1 |
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| Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 08:58 am |
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Note these photos are of Ruskias, they are real people with feelings and things like that. If you can somehow figure out who one of these nice ladies is then please keep it to yourself. Attachment removed by request of author. Last edited on Sunday April 15th, 2007 10:06 am by ronin1 |
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| Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 08:59 am |
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Note these photos are of Ruskias, they are real people with feelings and things like that. If you can somehow figure out who one of these nice ladies is then please keep it to yourself.
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| Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 09:00 am |
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Note these photos are of Ruskias, they are real people with feelings and things like that. If you can somehow figure out who one of these nice ladies is then please keep it to yourself. Attachment removed by request of author. Last edited on Sunday April 15th, 2007 10:07 am by ronin1 |
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| Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 09:00 am |
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Note these photos are of Ruskias, they are real people with feelings and things like that. If you can somehow figure out who one of these nice ladies is then please keep it to yourself. Attachment removed by request of author. Last edited on Sunday April 15th, 2007 10:07 am by ronin1 |
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| Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 09:01 am |
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Note these photos are of Ruskias, they are real people with feelings and things like that. If you can somehow figure out who one of these nice ladies is then please keep it to yourself. Attachment removed by request of author. Last edited on Sunday April 15th, 2007 10:09 am by ronin1 |
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| Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 09:02 am |
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went back to each of the photos and added the following disclaimer Note these photos are of Ruskias, they are real people with feelings and things like that. If you can somehow figure out who one of these nice ladies is then please keep it to yourself. On another board a member figured out who I was and who I was seeing and was able to cause a great big old fight between me and an otherwise happy sexy Ruskia on my last day in town. I did manage to patch it up and Make up sex was great however (different trip, different country different story) I hope that the photos add to the entertainment value of my report and do not result in me getting my a$$ fried by an angry Ruskia. I am more than capable of getting my a$$ in trouble with out any help Thank you in advance.
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| Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 09:03 am |
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the saga continues........ Elena calls and tells me I have two more dates. J2 first and V2 second. J2 and V2 are both highly recommended by Elena. I go to flip on the light in my flat and the light makes a popping sound and goes out. Damn I think now my room will be dark. But its worse than that. The power is out in the entire flat. I have a flashlight but now I have to find it. It becomes progressively more important that I find it because my bladder is about to burst. I somehow find it in the dark and finish my call to nature. I bathe, shave, find clothes and get dressed in the dark. To my relief I spilled very little blood during the shaving routine. I can't iron my clothes however and put on the least Rumpled ones I can find. I am red green color blind which is much worse in the dark. I have a couple of systems to keep track of what colors go with what, but in the dark all bets are off. I luckily have my cell phone fully charged, Elena calls and says she is outside to pick me up for my next date. I am ready with at least 4 to 5 seconds to spare. I meet with J2 and she has to watch her sister’s children later so I mistakenly thought she said that we need to go to the Metro, my apartment is between the Metro and the Moscowitz train station. So I walk us in that direction. J2 is tall just under six feet tall and attractive and very interested in me. She knew every fact and word on my profile and her English was quite good. We were able to talk as if we knew each other for some time but the problem was that I was now comparing everyone I meet to R2 now and there was just more electricity with R2. I then realized that I had led her in the opposite direction to where she needed to go. She had thought that I was just leading her there to get closer to my apartment. Maybe I was doing that subconsciously but I really thought I was doing a good deed. We had tea and cake (the staples of the Ruskia diet) and I walked her back to where she should have been headed. Kiss on the cheek and off I go to meet Elena and V2 which is hours away. I call Andre the apartment manager and he doesnt act like he really cares about the light not working in the apartment. I even used the "I think I smell smoke" which will get any non Russian apartment manager running. To be continued...........
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| Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 09:04 am |
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In the dark.......and far from home I forgot a little story a couple of days earlier. After one of my dates I had the guy at the hotel call me a taxi and negotiate the fare. I did this because everything has two prices a low price for Russians and a high price for me and other foreigners. A taxi soon showed up and I jumped inside. He would not drive away with me. Eventually he was able to tell me he was waiting for someone else. So the guy standing at the door flags down a car (every car in the FSU is a potential taxi). He negotiates the fare and sends me on my way. The driver of the private car says something to me @TKRGBM<QBNIIO( and then )(&  *NONOO**Y(&GB) ) )U UUU.........He quickly realizes that I am not a Ruskiy and makes a couple of turns and drops me off where I am supposed to meet Elena. I pay the guy get out and he is gone. He just dumped me on a random street. It doesn't immediately dawn on me but when it did I had a big barrel laugh about it. I use my ability to ask for directions to the many cute Ruskia’s that I saw all over, and about 25 minutes later I arrive at Elena's agency. She was very concerned. I didn’t give it a second thought. Back to where I left the T/R........... I call Elena at http://www.love-formula.com and she calls the apartment manager as a favor because she did not help me get the flat to begin with. Elena helped me with a ticket problem as well even though she did not get the tickets for me. I guess what I am saying is that she is nice and helpful even when she isn't getting a commission for something. Elena gets Andre (the apartment guy) to agree to come by the apartment and check it out. I was supposed to check out at noon originally but I talked to Andre the day before and he agreed that I could stay until 6:00pm since I was leaving at 7:00pm to go to the airport and fly to Moscow. I try to pack in the dark and basically just stuffed everything into my bags. I had bought a few things while I was there like an iron, some knives because all flats that I have ever been to in the FSU have lousy knives. I like to cook and having a couple of knives is essential. Before you know it Elena calls and is ready to pick me up for a meeting with V2. One detail about Elena, she likes her office and her cars to be at least warm enough to bake bread in. I know a number of women who are the same way. I am wearing a sweater and I'm sweating. I meet V2 and she’s a doll. She is funny, sassy and is able to throw me off my game a couple of times with humor or teasing. She gave me a book of Russian short stories written in English and we had a good time. She has to leave because of a previous thing that she had to go to. Otherwise I would have been happy to spend the rest of my few hours with her. I give her a kiss on the cheek and I am off hoofing it back to my flat. I decide to give R2 a call and see if I can't meet her again for tea. We set it up to meet outside my flat and walk to a nearby cafe. I need another shower from the power walking and the ride in Elena’s mobile bakery. André shows up and I explain what I did and what happened. I know slightly less about electricity than I do about time travel. I looked in the panel before and there were only two circuit breakers. I tried them both. The power would come on for 1/2 a second then be right back off. I know that they use 220 here and decided that having been shocked many times with 110 here I will avoid messing around any further. Andre changed the light bulb in the room and went back to flick the circuit breaker again. I see a poof and some light in the panel and the power goes out. Remember I know very little about electricity but I think that maybe there might be some dust inside the switch so I go over and blow on the switch and flick the switch again. So I am a genius and the power is restored! So I gather my things to get in the shower plug in my iron and cell phone and get ready to jump in the bath. Andre is not capable of leaving this alone. He flips the switch a number of times and now we are in darkness again. I thought the cab thing was funny. I thought that a million things about my trip were funny. But in total darkness, and smelling like I rolled in something dead, and with a date in a few minutes, and when it really did not need to be dark at all I was able to maintained my composure. I rarely lose my temper and I was going to simply take a fast bath / shower with the water weasel attachment while André flipped the switch a hundred more times. BUT.........When Audre asked me to pay extra for staying later than noon that my amazing powers that I have to keep my cool disappeared. My head exploded and using not nearly enough Russian for most people to understand I explained to Audrey that he had D*rmo for brains (Sh*t) and that flying pigs, snow balls from hell and him having sex with two super models were all going to happen way before he got more money from me. Audre went back to the circuit breakers and concentrated on it like the answers to all the problems of the Universe were inside instead of two circuit breakers. I still to this day can't believe what happened. He flipped the switch and the power was back on. I gave him the extra money and showered, put on an ironed shirt and met R2 outside for some tea and cake. Andre will be meeting a couple of super models at any time now. Too be continued...........
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| Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 09:06 am |
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Warning boring traveling part of trip report to follow Warning boring traveling part of trip report to follow Warning boring traveling part of trip report to follow Since I packed primarily in the dark I just stuffed all my clothes in my various bags without any concern for folding or wrinkles. I did take make sure I had a clean set of clothing in my carry on bag for the arduous trip home. I Elena and her husband gave me a ride to the airport in St Petersburg and went inside to make sure I was in the right spot. I arrived in Moscow at nearly Midnight with a 7 hour layover. I briefly entertained the idea of taking a taxi to see Red Square or something but I realized that scrambling around the last several days was beginning to take a toll and I had a very long trip ahead of me. Aeroflot has a transfer booth with two babushkas working in it. I talked to them and they warned me to avoid the cab drivers. I smiled and chatted with them while waiting for the baggage to arrive. After collecting my bags I went back to the booth to make sure I could find the free shuttle. When they realized my plan was to stay in the other airport all night they said that they could find a cheap hotel ($60) on the way to the airport. After looking at my tickets they said it was too early to take the free transport to the airport and called and set up a taxi (100 rubles) to pick me up at the hotel and take me to the airport at 5:00am. Then one of the babushkas decided to walk me through the taxi drivers and wait for the transport with me in the rain. It’s another case where being friendly and talking to people has paid dividends. She got into the bus and told the bus driver where to drop me. I slept for 3 glorious hours, showered and got into the taxi and arrived at the airport. Here is where stuffing my clothes into my bags paid off. Every single passenger had to put their bags on a table and every single item was removed and checked. Then I just stuffed it back in drawing a few laughs from the security folks. I asked for an exit row seat but was told no at the check in counter (not fluent in Russian). I was seated again with a woman and a child and thoughts of teeth marks again entered my mind. I helped a couple really short babushkas lift their bags into the overhead bins and charmed a flight attendant by doing so and she put me in an exit row seat by a cute Ruskia named E5. She spoke excellent English and we had a number of nice conversations. (I think the flight was 11 or so hours) I had a 6 hour 30 minute layover at JFK (I changed my shirt in the bathroom) an hour wait on the tarmac and a 5 and a half hour flight to SFO and an hour drive to get home to my bed. Then I drove 12 hours to pick up my son and after a few hours sleep a quick 12 hour drive back home. I slept like a baby. I will review my notes and post a random notes / summation soon.
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| Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 09:07 am |
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trippin Totally Random Notes After reading my report I wish there was a way to go back and correct all my errors in spelling and grammar. I usually try to check it better but things were happening too quickly and I was scrambling unsuccessfully to keep everything up to date. Also they served Piva at the internet café which could have been a factor as well. I accidentally left my beauty bag, the bag with all the essential items to keep up my sleek and handsome appearance behind, including my razor, toothbrush, hair gel etc. I would have really enjoyed the toothbrush when I arrived at JFK. I did bring along a huge quantity of sugarless gum which every Ruskias loved after tea and cake or a meal. I brought with me one large bath towel. The towels provided at every apartment that I have been to in the FSU have been thread bare and suitable only for drying small things that are only slightly damp. Elena at http://www.love-formula.com has several women in picture books that are not on her website. If you are heading to St Petersburg I would recommend talking to her. I also had a good response from the people at Russianlovematch. Oksana and Alena were both very helpful and put me in touch with Elena. Oksana even helped me with a Russian word or phrase that I couldn’t figure out (in transliteration so I could understand). I brought a note book with me to draw out ideas and to write words. Most Russian women can read words they don’t understand when spoken. But this next part is a key precaution! Make sure that you have a place marked (I bent the page over) where you don’t show another woman’s notes or words or drawings. Since I started in the front and worked to the back I simply opened it to spot with an empty page in between. Someone asked me about my decision to pay Andre after the day in the dark incident. I rarely loose my temper and he looked so pathetic after my tirade. Really words can’t describe the intensity that he used to stare at the electrical panel and I guess I’m just a big softy. To his credit he refused to take it at first so I put it in his front pocket. I really liked the idea of just walking up to women and talking to them but after the one day Elena had me too busy to try it again except for the date I managed to get with the married waitress. So far on each of my 5 trips having a small flashlight was essential. I have used it to shave with (and to find and remove traces of shaving cream) quite a number of times. I emailed myself a signed notarized copy of an Attestation form. This is a form disclosing how many times I was convicted of felonies, drug smuggling and prostitution ring running etc. to keep in tune with the laws enacted last March. I only had to report the rings I was caught running however. I gave a copy of the disclosure form to the agencies that I went to. In Russian grocery stores they have yards of rows of squeeze bags of mayonnaise. Some of these bags have tomatoes on them, some have cucumbers. Others have various interesting things pictured on the bag. So being adventurous and remembering all the different things that they will put in a carton of milk, I selected three different bags thinking I would have just about the most exciting sandwiches in the FSU. When I got home I found that I had three bags of identical mayonnaise as far as I can tell. I might use a couple of tablespoons of mayonnaise a day so three bags would be at least a years supply. Three bags of mayonnaise would most likely be a three week supply for your average Ruskia. They put lots of mayonnaise on everything even their soup sometimes. They also will put sour cream in their soup which before my first trip to the FSU I had never tried. Now I put it in borsch and it’s quite tasty. Russian sour cream is thinner than American sour cream but thicker than Mexican and in my opinion tastes better. Almost all restaurants have several kinds of juice; many are made fresh for you on the spot. I had a couple different kinds with each meal that I ate out. This is one place where you can trust the pictures on the juice boxes in a Russian store. If it has pineapples on it then you are getting pineapple juice. Every grocery store had a variety of mystery meats. I had no idea what many of them were so I stayed with precooked ham which I felt fairly safe with. I know a little Spanish (I live in California) and can tell you that I have often confused it with Russian at times. I would be searching for a word in Russian and the Spanish word (it’s a foreign language after all) would pop out. I can tell you for a fact that if you substitute Spanish word for a Russian word it will not help you in anyway to get your idea across. I can also tell you if you say a Russian word for a Spanish word to a Mexican that he will look at you cross eyed. In an airport I saw a group of Russian men smoking directly beneath a No Smoking sign. When an American fired up his cigarette (he was wearing a cowboy hat) an airport official quickly came over and told him it was against the rules. On a previous trip I was in an airplane (KLM) and when somebody entered the bathroom there was a drawing of a man and a woman in a circle with a line through it. There were a couple of College guys seated next to me drinking and having a good time. I pointed to the sign and they explained to me that it meant that the bathroom was occupied. Relieved I told them I thought it meant that the mile high club was not allowed. They thought this was so hilarious that they insisted that I have a drink with them. Summary This is my fifth trip to the FSU. I have read hours and hours and hours on this forum and others. Anytime I saw a new trip report I read it with zeal. I had already read all of the archives and old reports a couple of times each. I came to think I almost knew some of the people writing these reports and making all these posts. I think I learned a lot and decided to make a trip myself. I had to learn some of the lessons told by others the hard way (thinking that surely this couldn’t happen to me), but I avoided a many of the common pitfalls. Initially I wasn’t going to write a trip report but then I thought that I have gained so much from the reports of others that I should pass on to others what so many others have passed on to me. I have decided to write to V2 to see where it may lead. I have tried to call her but haven’t been able to reach her as of today. I was asked earlier what I was seeking for in a woman and this is what I wrote in my profile. It’s a little corny but here it is. I am not looking for a woman that I can live with, I am looking for a woman that I can't live without. What am I looking for? I want it all. I want love, beauty, passion, honesty, a confidant, a real companion, a lover, a wife. I want a woman who wants to be a woman and who wants her man to be a man. (I told you I want it all :-) I am a Catholic and I am looking for a Christian woman, I don't fall on my knees and pray every five minutes but I am a believer and NOT looking for an atheist. I haven’t found the end of the rainbow yet and I will never stop looking until I find it. I will not give up seeking that which would make me happy. I especially want to thank all those people who wrote a trip report before me and the ones writing them now. If I think of something else to add I will.
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| Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 09:09 am |
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What I am packin Things I always pack for my trips I know that the kind of clothes to bring depends on the time of year. I also know that its unlikely that I can buy anything to fit me that I forget or leave behind. I walk on average 5-10 miles per day so I bring a couple pairs of very good walking shoes and a pair of hiking boots. It takes up a ton of room in my suitcases but its worth it Foot powder or baby powder makes those ten miles more comfortable. Small Flashlight, I have never been to the FSU without the power going off at least once. Condoms, did you ever need one and not have one? It is not a good feeling. Chap Stick to keep those lips kissable and works for hang nails too I-pod / CD player Gum, I bring a lot and offer it out to Ruskias they seem to appreciate it. Digital camera Extra change of clothes in your carry on bag. Electric converters and adapters Some coffee table picture books of your area Baby wipes I bring a Swiss army knife in my packed luggage. I have used the little scissors and the screwdriver feature on every single trip at least once. I have an estaco electronic translator it is incredibly useful. You must be able to spell to use it however so a handheld dictionary is a good back up. A full size American fluffy bath towel, the ones in the apartments are always small and thread bare. Things I do before heading out on a trip Haircut a week before, I think it takes a week before my hair looks good after a haircut obviously YMMV I get a manicure and pedicure a day or two before leaving, I know it’s not the most manly thing to do but they do look at your finger nails. I check to see that there is no hair growing where it shouldn't ie, nose ears etc. The last thing I reccomend it to bring your sense of humor. Things rarely go as planned and yet you can still have a good time if you have your head on straight.
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| Posted: Monday March 19th, 2007 04:40 am |
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2tallbill, Welcome to the RWPrimer!!! That was a great TR! When is the next chapter of your journey going to start? I and the rest of the viewers will be looking forward to it. Ronin
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| Posted: Monday March 19th, 2007 06:44 am |
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Ronin1, good question. The lady I liked most was V2 we talked a while exchanging emails, I talked to her on the phone and I sent her many sms. But for reasons I dont know why she told me that she didnt want to continue. It could have been a Russian boyfriend it could have been a million things but she didnt tell me why. One thing that I have always done If a woman is not interested in me then I am not interested in her. I don't try to find out why. Maybe this is an issue, maybe it's some kind of test but I think not. I am not going to have a relationship half way around the world with someone that isn't completely interested in me. If she started an arguement (she didnt) then I would see this as a test of some sort. But she didn't. Maybe you have some insight. But my gut reaction is to move on and find a woman who is more interested. But when I go to the FSU again, (I am hooked on FSU women) then I will file another trip report. Bill Last edited on Monday March 19th, 2007 06:45 am by 2tallbill |
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| Posted: Monday March 19th, 2007 06:50 am |
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Maybe your wife, (I met you and her) would know a cute sweet woman that would like to meet a tall (handsome) and nice guy. If she feels uncomfortable about that.........no problem I will continue to seek what I am looking for. I am confident that I will find what I seek. I have often thought that people (women especially) see a person and think of someone who they think would be great for them. Often this is not the case but just as often it is. Just my two kopecks. Bill Last edited on Monday March 19th, 2007 06:54 am by 2tallbill |
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| Posted: Monday March 19th, 2007 06:58 am |
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2tallbill wrote: Maybe your wife, (I met you and her) would know a cute sweet woman that would like to meet a tall, handsome and nice guy. If she feels uncomfortable about that.........no problem I will continue to seek what I am looking for. I am confident that I will find what I seek.
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| Posted: Friday April 13th, 2007 12:47 am |
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Due to this trip report written here and in other forums has landed me a spot on antidates black list. Having gone to Russia and even though I never slept with any woman while I was there I am now a sex tourist by definitions of an Angry Hostile Russian woman forum. But let me make it clear here in case anyone misunderstands. I went to Russia to meet a nice woman. This is called wovo write one and visit one. Things didn't work out so I had several short dates consisting mostly of tea and cake or lunch or dinner. The purposes of these short get togethers was to see we had any mutual chemistry. If so then I could continue to develope a relationship with them and then visit them again to get to know them better. I didn't sleep with these women. They are all nice, sincere, honest ladies and you (from the antidate forum) are insulting them as well as me to say that we slept together after a meeting of 1 or 2 hours. It didn't happen. This site has been linked to by antidate (not by me) Just my two kopecks Bill PS It would take more than an alligator filled moat, fire breathing dragons and a black knight or two to even slow me down. You can write all the things that worry me on the back of a postage stamp. Although its a little unfair to be on their black list (who said life was fair) If you look on the back of the postage stamp this isn't on it. Last edited on Friday April 13th, 2007 01:18 am by 2tallbill |
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| Posted: Sunday April 15th, 2007 03:48 am |
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Ronin, I would like to request to remove some of the photos in my trip report. I have posted these photos without permission of the ladies, and have created a firestorm to say the least. You can read the travesty at the following link. http://forum.antidate.org/index.php?showtopic=6484 They can write anything they want about anybody and include their name, address, and email address completely anonomysly with no facts and make up complete lies Would you please remove the following photos? Posted: Wednesday March 7th, 2007 08:46 pm Posted: Wednesday March 7th, 2007 08:51 pm Posted: Wednesday March 7th, 2007 08:55 pm Posted: Wednesday March 7th, 2007 09:00 pm Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 12:57 am Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 12:58 am Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 01:00 am Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 01:00 am Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 01:01 am Thank you for your help Bill
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| Posted: Sunday April 15th, 2007 10:12 am |
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Bill, Wow!! what a roasting, but it looks like they are looking for some another tenderfoots to string up now. All the pics have been removed from your posts. Ronin
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| Posted: Monday April 23rd, 2007 03:45 am |
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geez, you see, I figured there would have to be something like this, I mean, where are the U.S. ladies searching for Russian men? and this is not a new thought for me. goodness even in 1985, when the rumors started I fiogured, well, where is the flip side. I think it's cool that there is a site like that on the russian side, I mean, we are just people, and when I went to prep school we had some Russian students, and we were like, whatever. The only big story was a school trip for a small number to romania, and the only thing they mentioned when they got back was, their toiletries were missing, like toothpaste and shampoo and stuff, but they all raved at the parties. ( this was 77 to 81 ) One of the things that was exciting they said was being able to drink in public, obviously, and we all oohed and aahed because we had to be carefull about getting caught if we were drinking- let alone where to stash the bottles because they were bulky, and who not to invite because they could not hold their booze and start cranking the music at 1am and stumbling around. Stuff like that would get you Busted- lol and even then, when the spectre of "mail order brides" surfaced around 85 to 90 you had to figure that of these, IF legit, there were scores of others entrapped by the mob. Many of which reside now in Brighton Beach. I know a friend whose father is a cop, who told me recently how "they" are set up in Brighton. Somehow they get the full boat of public assistance, rental, WiC, SSI and the lot. they do better than some working people, and this is TODAY, and they are pro's if you know what I mean, thast cater only to the mob bosses, or so the Cop father, says. Kinda like those ababdoned buildings you see from time to time that occasionally have latino's hanging out in front and the bus driver tells you that that is a brothel, but only for mexicans. what is the american saying? thieves only fear an honest man. Sorry you got roasted like that Tallman, it did appear unfair, but this comes from their perspective and itr was nice- heh, odd choice of words there, nice to see them suddenly bring up the rumors they have HAD to have heard, especially the one about the %'ge of american girls getting pregnant, what other stuff have they heard? I am sure a ton, and I can probably pick some. Being fat, I do come off as the typical red-faced, meat-eating- heck I could be the persona behind the "fat Ivan" scammer mentioned here. Who cares, I'm 43 and savvy enough not to be so damned arrogant. It's fun to say, oh we are all free especially coming from san fransisco, but one thing those just 10 to 20 years older than us - the hippies- forgot to ensure was that EVERYBODY got some including us. What they did instead was go for the looks-, you're a good looking man Tall,- "free" ing the lookers and ingnoring those that really got it, like me. They were looking for a lost generation and didn't even realize the one they created, me, and like Frank Zappa said the pretty people need to be afraid, because the ugly people out-number them 100 to 1, or something, have to check the bio. We can say, oh, but at least the U.S> reports it, there are probably Tens of thousands in Russia to every one in the U.S that are just not reported for some pride thing. You would think on observation they would know from Tsar Peter. that envied England for having Steam power. Look at their Nuclear build up compared to ours. We had more advanced targeting abilities- heck even the cosmonauts marveled at the pocket calculators the U.S. Astronauts had when they docked with Skylab, and a good 5 years ago the soldiers did not have socks, they had a handkerchief and a pin and had to be trained to wrap their feet. - so where we would build nukes with small warheads, but many of them to hit various targets, the FSU knowing the targeting issues, would build HUGE bombs, the kind that would destroy the target even if the plane was 100 to 150 miles away from it. Thats a big bomb. Geez, I am almost arguing like Kirk to Checkov. remember in the '70's? when the claims were coming out how they invented the telephone first? and the radio? when we silently leaned on Alexander Graham bell and the romance of the '20's? and Marconi? how we silently laughed. So, when is someone going to tell them? I remember, I remember that as a young man in the City. Heck my roomate in prep school had a sock machine, his dad was in textiles, put the cloth in one end, and a sock would come out the other. And THIS is where the argument comes, this pride B.S. because anyone, take it from their perspective, would try to back pedal and lean on something they know that might be just a bit better than us. Our impulse is to gently state the obvious and pray that no shame gets imparted, but it does. Can't help it. Who is the world changer here? who wants to be? I am very interested in this blacklist site, where can I get or find something that will translate the russian language? I want to be able to read this. And here I am, this just really reinforces the "sap" aspect I try to bury, since I, too and going to these sites to look for somehting that is romance, that is love, spiced with all that sexual freedom those hippes said we could have, remember the poster? " If it feels good, do it!" and the calorie counter for sexual positions? I do because if so blatant at that time I figured, well my parents are behind the times and I had better kknow this stuff, so I can be prepared as an adult, doing all that stuff, geez those folks in CA really know how to do it, maybe have to "catch up" with them. But there were no opportunities, too scared, too gawky, and the pretty ones were not left alone to fiund US, they were snatched up by the older ones, and here I am trying to almost, do the same thing! But I knew even then, you could tell, there werew some behind the times,and I figured, well, they will perish in the future. But here I am in that future and they did not perish, in fact some have evolved new art forms, how cool, how hippie, that I was supposed to discover and make known. You got the wrong guys. Liberty and Justice for ALL, man. I mean think of it, if we found an inhabital planet close by, who would we ask about colonizing it? I think we should ask the brits, because they are so darned good at it. Imagine, excuse me, your highness? should we send prisoners to that rough planet? No, Australia. Hmm, ok, how about good hard-working but annoying religious folk? No, America. Hmm, ok, how about the military? soldiers? No, India. Hmm, ok, how about Bankers and lawyers? No, Singapore ( 100 years to the chinese is nothing ) Hmm, ok, how about merchants and businessmen? No, Africa. And here's the otherside. Sex tourist? I want to know about this I want to know where this came from, where it started, and how a site like the blacklist came about and why. Because with this kind of thing, there had to be an example and I want to know what that example was. If they want to let pride get in the way and say you should not teach an adult, fine, don't envy- stop it, I can hear you starting to envy, c'mon suck it up! you're supposed to be tough anyways. Go ahead and use this short-handled shovel. Only a working man or one that has lived up to the Kipling Ideal AS I HAVE-( if you can walk with kings and still maintain the common touch etc etc ) < and I HAVE,all that stuff, except the bet bit, I thought that was silly- would know the "thing" about short-handled shovels, heck, they were even mentioned in a depression era folk song. So, cut through the bull and get to the brass tacks. ( ask me what those mean ) what does this help? sure it helps some, maybe get the bad guys out, but keep your arrogance in check and by God why are people there? hope! The Hope! I hate to sound pessimistic but maybe there is a reason that was also in pandora's box with all of the other human evils. What we would be if Hope had also been let loose? Sorry for the rant, I am very curious, especially about this. Yes, I hope t plan to go on ONE trip maybe through an agency, but I am going also to look around, to be a darned tourist, if nothing comes of it romantically, so be it, and curse me for expecting the worst, and hoping for the best. But man, I believe, I do believe in love at first sight. I think you did what you went there for, TallMan, and besides, these days many people are meeting and having successfull relationships over the internet. I know three couples, that MET and got MARRIED from playing a on-line Massive Multiplayer on-line role-playing GAME ( MMORPG ) having never seen each other, just playing a game and then chatting going on adventures together, grouping, it is not a taboo thing like it used to be. Online dating is the same thing- just shorter. I want to know more about this anti-date thing and why it got started?
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| Posted: Sunday April 29th, 2007 12:16 pm |
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ronin1 wrote: Bill, Thanks, Bill
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| Posted: Sunday April 29th, 2007 12:31 pm |
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mahding I think (but don't know for a fact) that antidate got started after a woman had a bad experience with a man so she started this site. She decided to put up photos of men who were married and still went to the FSU to meet ladies, and men who sent pornographic photos etc. There are several online translators that will poorly translate many of the posts to English, but it’s not effective for translating slang or misspelled words etc. Online translators also simply translate each word as opposed to understanding context or how it relates to other words. Also the sentence structure is different so it's a little difficult to read the antidate site. Here is an example of an online translator http://translation2.paralink.com/ Bill
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| Posted: Tuesday November 4th, 2008 05:08 am |
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Why were all the pictures of the nice Ruskias removed?
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| Posted: Tuesday November 4th, 2008 08:17 am |
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Nevermind about why the pics were removed, I wouldn't have removed them unless they removed the negative report though... I had a similar situation at my college where a girl was saying all sorts of crazy things about me because I would NOT sleep with her. I finally dated an administrators daughter and the crazy girl got banned from campus for life. Never underestimate the lengths that a girl who likes you will go to protect you. I read the entire dialog, but at no time do they ever state that you had sex with a girl, so how do they support the 'sex tourist' label??? One of the girls even goes so far as to call you a coward for NOT sleeping with a girl who is married. Someone should have their Russian Wife contact the forum owner and about removing that report. If he didn't have sex with any of the girls, then he's not a 'sex tourist' it's THAT simple. If we aren't safe to report the events that unfold on our trip as they occur, then don't expect to get any reports... I know I'm not going to risk being 'black listed' with all of the agencies just because some gossip-girl is angry at me for not 'choosing' her.
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| Posted: Tuesday November 4th, 2008 08:29 am |
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mahding wrote: geez,That was deep man. A very revealing glimpse at how the hippies were just as much a part of the 'beautiful people' clique as the Man is, and in that way perhaps they became just like the Man, which is why they are mostly all working for him today...
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