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| Posted: Friday April 24th, 2009 05:17 pm |
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lie4ik Member
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Here is a recent letter exchange between Jim at agencyscams.com and I...this is just a little more proof that dream-marriage.com is a scam just like anastasiaweb.com. From: "Agency Scams" <[url=mailto:jim@agencyscams.com>Add]jim@agencyscams.com>Add[/url] sender to ContactsTo: "tired surfer" <lie4ik@****.com> dream-marriage.com had a lawyer contact my host and whine and cry. So, because of internet c**p, I had to remove dream-marriage.com from my site. So, what I did was change it to dream-marriage-my.com. It is still for dream-marriage.com, but with this name, I stay out of trouble. I have received hundreds of letters regarding dream-marriage.com. Most guys have the same scam story that follows anastasiaweb.com, they join and receive 60 letters the first day, and about 300 over the next week. How is this not a sure sign of a scam ? Other guys were writing girls and wanted to visit the girl and she suddenly disappears. Other guys go to visit the girl and they either disappear or the girl has no idea who he is. MANY guys get letters from girls that they are already talking to on other sites. and some guys have had girls confess to them that they get paid to write letters. Some of these girls are just being nice. Some girls like the guys and want to get away from the agency because they see all the scamming that happens first-hand. dream-marriage.com is a HUGE scam. They are rivaling anastasiaweb.com. I don't know how these places stay in business with so much knowledge these days. Best of Luck, Jim DREAM-MARRIAGE.COM is a HUGE scam! They made AGENCYSCAMS.NET to discredit me. They copied anastasia-international.com's style step by step. JIM'S Original Anti-Scam Site - http://agencyscams.com JIM'S Agency Checklist Site - http://jimslists.com > Hey Jim > > I have 2 questions. > > Why are you making so many changes to the dream-marriage.com pages? > > Can you give me some specifics on how other men were scammed at > dream-marriage.com? > > Thanks. > > Lie4ik
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| Posted: Wednesday October 14th, 2009 09:17 pm |
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1234 Member
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All I want to say is that there is always two sides to the coin, You can sit here all day and complain about Russian girls and their scams and making making up stories about what they do. But I want to talk about Dream Marriage!! But from what I have heard from the other side is that there are allot of crazy stupid men who contact these nice girls. And they think because they have US passports that these girls will crawl on the floor for them. No in fact there mostly all very well educated ladys who are inteligent enough to know when they are speaking to stupid crazy men, which mostly happens on this site. Men who have no chance of getting a real date in USA or hope in hell, but they count themselves as gods on this site, LOL!!!! So you see its not just a scam, its stupid men sxpecting too much!! I want to tell you about my experience, I have met my fiance (N) from Dream marriage website and we are about to get married soon, and we are in Love. We met each other first time in Kiev and we had a great time, she is a brilliant lady, Lady of my dreams!! Later I came back and spent more time with her in her city and we had a fantastic time, during this time we became engaged to each other and now I wait for her fiance visa so we will get married soon hopefuly in a month. But she told me stories about the men who use this site Dream Marriage as a sex chat!! The men are stupid crazy old farts, they just want to get off, by chatting to these girls, come on Old Man put your dentures in your mouths first !!!! And the men who do come and see these girls finaly break the girls hearts with making them shity promises they cannot keep. And all these rubbish I read about how its a scam, well I am living proof that it is not. If anything I wish to Thank Dream marriage for letting me meet the woman of my dreams (N) Last edited on Wednesday October 14th, 2009 09:31 pm by 1234 |
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| Posted: Thursday October 15th, 2009 11:56 pm |
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Either one of you you guys want to post with a real name? Posting comment for and against agencies using a fake name doesn't allow the reader to tell the difference between a agency posting or a real person posting. If you got something to say. Sign it. Kevin
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| Posted: Friday October 16th, 2009 07:14 pm |
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1234 Member
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What difference does it make whether I sign it or not, As if thats really going to make it legitimate. I told you about my story. Now if you dont think its legitimate thats your problem. But hey look I'll sighn it for you buddy. Hugh. Last edited on Friday October 16th, 2009 08:10 pm by 1234 |
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| Posted: Friday October 16th, 2009 10:28 pm |
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khersongirls Member
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My comment was simple. Since my competitors often post about my agencies with false names. I tend to read the stories of posters with names that I can verify and take the ones who hide their names with less trust. My point was if you have a complaint about any agency. Post the facts and be willing to stand by them. I fully agree with your comment about this agency. Kevin
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| Posted: Saturday October 17th, 2009 05:11 pm |
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khersongirls Member
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Hugh I already knew who you are and that your story is legit. Just too many "hidden Posters" these days and just wanted to mention how to get better credit on your postings. Kevin
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| Posted: Saturday October 17th, 2009 07:41 pm |
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1234 Member
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Ok thanks Kevin, I will definately keep that in mind for the future.
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| Posted: Friday October 30th, 2009 02:58 am |
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grambo112233 Member
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Thsi guy is lying his ass off. If you read what he writes, you can see suttle hints of a russian accent. His common misuse of the english language is what gives it away. Why woulod a Russian guy contact a russian woman through a website for AMerican guys???? SHouldnt he know Russian women from his hometown??? read what he writes and you will pick it up. I dated a russian woman, from Ukariane that came here on her own with her family in 1992, so I know how russian men speak, first hand--- read his exerpt"All I want to say is that there is always two sides to the coin, You can sit here all day and complain about Russian girls and their scams and making making up stories about what they do. But I want to talk about Dream Marriage!! But from what I have heard from the other side is that there are allot of crazy stupid men who contact these nice girls. And they think because they have US passports that these girls will crawl on the floor for them. No in fact there mostly all very well educated ladys who are inteligent enough to know when they are speaking to stupid crazy men, which mostly happens on this site. Men who have no chance of getting a real date in USA or hope in hell, but they count themselves as gods on this site, LOL!!!! So you see its not just a scam, its stupid men sxpecting too much!! I want to tell you about my experience, I have met my fiance (N) from Dream marriage website and we are about to get married soon, and we are in Love. We met each other first time in Kiev and we had a great time, she is a brilliant lady, Lady of my dreams!! Later I came back and spent more time with her in her city and we had a fantastic time, during this time we became engaged to each other and now I wait for her fiance visa so we will get married soon hopefuly in a month. But she told me stories about the men who use this site Dream Marriage as a sex chat!! The men are stupid crazy old farts, they just want to get off, by chatting to these girls, come on Old Man put your dentures in your mouths first !!!! And the men who do come and see these girls finaly break the girls hearts with making them shity promises they cannot keep. And all these rubbish I read about how its a scam, well I am living proof that it is not. If anything I wish to Thank Dream marriage for letting me meet the woman of my dreams (N) Last edited on Wednesday October 14th, 2009 04:31 pm by 1234" _________________________________________________________________ Lying son of A BITCH. RIPPIN OFF AMERICAN MEN. WHy cant there be honest sites that allow a nice good looking guy to meet a woman he will treat as an equal, just becuase he like the ethnicity of a russian life. ????? ANyone know of REAL marriage sites that will allow me to find a nice russian girl to get to know, and possibly marry and bring here for a better life for her and myself??? Please email me. Thanks grambo112233
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| Posted: Friday October 30th, 2009 03:02 am |
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and we are in Love. We met each other first time in Kiev and we had a great time, she is a brilliant lady, Lady of my dreams! I qoute" she is a brilliant lady, Lady of my dreams... it should be She is a brilliant lady, the lady of my dreams. This is a common Russian MISTAKE. WHich shows the Author is more than likely the RUssian Prick ripping off American guys.... Thats all I have to say. grambo112233
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| Posted: Monday November 2nd, 2009 09:57 am |
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1234 Member
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Listen a****** the only m***** f****** p**** is you and the w**** of a b**** that f***** you out. I said my story because its real. and you can accept it cuz your a looser. So f*** you looser and be a lonely c**t all your life. by the way im not Russian but your too f***** in the head to understand that, which clearly proves my point most of the f***** up men who use these sites to relieve themselves. A** h**** like yourself. Looser!!!!!!!! edited by ronin. Gotta pull back on those choice words. Last edited on Friday November 25th, 2011 12:09 am by ronin1 |
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| Posted: Wednesday December 2nd, 2009 02:13 am |
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borism Member
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I think dream marriage is part scam part real. It is obvious, that there is some scamming going on. I think they are a little greedy, but something tells me they are somewhat legit. I am not saying that they are not corrupt. Think about this, and I am a Russian guy who lives in United States, the only way a mafia can exist is when a part of their organization is legit, but the other is not. Why, because when someone tryes to do a full audit, they will not get caught. So I am not saying that I am one of them, trying to be one of you. I am saying that if it was fake, then how come it feels so real?
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| Posted: Wednesday December 2nd, 2009 03:00 am |
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borism Member
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Just read this letter no offense but it just looks legit: My Boris,My honey, sometimes even big girls cry... That feeling calls sadness. If you look at my photos you will never belive how lonely I am. You will never believe that I don't have any one with whom I can just talk. Nobody cares about me. Today I was thinking that if I dissapeared one day, nobody would notise! Because I'm not so important. It's just me... I'm looking for my love so long and still I'm here alone... Have you ever feeled the same? I mean, not depression but fear that it's destiny for you to be lonely? I don't want it so much. My heart is ready to fly! I just need that moment, that open heart of man who will love me! Who will really need me... Honey, tell me just one time sincerely, do you think about me as about serious girl? Do you think I could be a couple for you a wife? Not only lover, more that body and face... You are so far from me but maybe your heart is closer than we think? Maybe you and I could... Could we? I will wait for your letter.. And please, darling, forgive me for my sad letter. Hope you won't feel sad because of me?? Kiss you tenderly See I read this message over and over, and it cannot be faked. Why because the message says my name, and more important talks as if an actual girl is responding, and with honesty.
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| Posted: Friday December 4th, 2009 10:18 pm |
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Steven7 Member
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I recently visited my 'bride" in Odessa, Ukraine. I studied Russian language in college, understand and speak Russian fluently, but with Western accent. So that "my bride to be", so-called "interpreter Anna" and I went to seat and chat in local cafe in order for me to get more acquainted with "my bride". I pretended that I do not understand a word in Russian. Three of us sat at the table, ordered food and drinks and "interpreter" Anna, who is gypsy looking, unpleasant dark skined woman with large, pretty, but thieving eyes and light colored hair who said that she is an Armenian, started "translating" complete opposite of what "bride" was saying. I could not believe my ears what I heard. "Bride" was telling Anna that she did not even see my picture on "Dream Marriage" site and if she knew in advance that I have some gray hair, she would not even go with me to the cafe as she scheduled to see two more "Dream Marriage" male clients from U.S. later on during the day. Anna translated complete opposite by telling me: "How happy "bride" is that she finally meets me in person and that she likes me a lot. Further "bride" was saying to Anna: "Do you think that this American idiot will buy me a pair of nice designer shoes for a few hundred dollars or if he is cheap as the previous guy from yesterday"? Anna translated to me that "bride" wants to walk with me on the main street so that I can do some shopping for myself to buy some local souvenirs to take back home. Further "bride" said: "How much do you think this idiot will give me for a "cab ride" back home"? Anna translated: "Your bride lives far away and after we done eating and shopping, she needs to get a cab back home and that cab costs $50.00. I knew that cabs in Ukraine are very cheap and that for $50, I will be able to ride in the cab whole day long. As we walk on the main street, "bride" "accidentally" asked if we cold go to the shopping center across the street. We went there, "bride" walked inside upscale shoe store and started trying on different shoes while saying to Anna: "Try to make this idiot to buy me this $800.00 shoes for cash and later today, I will return them back to the store and will give you $200 if you will make him to buy it". "Anna interpreter" "translated" to me that "bride" always dreamed to own those shoes, but could not afford it, look how pretty and nice those shoes are and how nice they fit "bride". "Buy her a gift, each and every time she will wear those shoes, it will bring a memories of you" and so on". I replied that I do not have that much cash on me. Majority of stores in Ukraine do not accept credit cards. Then Anna said: "Maybe you could get her a bit cheaper pair of shoes" and so on. Interpreter was like begging me to buy shoes for "bride". Anna "interpreter" charged me $70 for three (3) hours of false translations.The bottom line is that "brides" and "interpreters" in Odessa, Ukraine are working together in order to rip off Westerners. "Bride" even did not know how I look, she never herself read and even sent me any messages. All messages were created and sent by "interpreters" such as Anna or as I believe by Anna herself in order to lure me and thousands of other unsuspected men overseas so that they can make several hundred dollars. "Dream Marriage" and other agencies are indeed 100% fraud, being owned and operated by scam artists and their so-called interpreters are the #1 scammers which belongs behind bars in prisons. I got partially lucky because of my knowledge of Russian language. I did not disclose name of the "bride" because she is only 19 years old. However her "interpreter" Anna is nothing by thieving scam artist and fraudster. Beware! I have some pictures taken of "bride" and "interpreter Anna" and will post "interpreter's" photo on appropriate sites in order to alert others. Steven
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| Posted: Friday February 26th, 2010 07:54 pm |
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Maxsys Member
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Hi, I have the same experience as Steven here. I cannot speak Russian but I good at reading faces , my “bride” meet me at the airport with her interpreter, She did not seems so happy to see me I first but she make a little smile in the taxi on the way to the hotel. We meet in Odessa but the “bride” was living outside the city say the interpreter so she need help with taxi 400$ and the interpreter wants for the work 350$ for a few days.. It’s more than a normal person in Ukraine makes in a moth. But okay I think! All types of service has different type off feeds. Back to the story, We sit down for dinner at a nice restaurant , had some wine . after a dinner the “bride” start talking with a weird smile on her face to me. I can say that the smile looks more like self-righteous smile. The interpreter say that the "bride" like my eyes and are so happy to see me, I was tired after a long trip so I did not pay so much attention to that the smile and the words did not match at that time. The next day we went for breakfast and a walk the "bride" wanted me to see Odessa, I say yes because it was nice to see the city. We start walking , we went in to a store the interpreter and my "bride" start talking a lot ... not to me they start picking things in the store and went for the cashier with all the things. They did not ask me if it was okay to pay the things .. It was expected! Fine I have money so I pay for it... We continue walking after a few meter we come to another store , my "bride" wanted to go in.. I say no and say that I wanted to see the city that she promise to show me. I was thinking "let's see what happens now" , so we walk ... the girls was talking a lot and did not make any effort to let me know what they talk about. When I ask what they were laughing about the interpreter say: ooo nothing special. After a while we went to a café to make us warm again, now I really starting to feel that something hade change... I notice that they stop giving me attention after the last store I did not want to go into. So I started to talk allot , asking questions about my "bride" family things, I make some jokes. The interpreter just look at me with a weird face. And I say with a big question face! Should you not translate ? She starting to talk again with the "bride" after like 5 Russian word she was finish with the translation... I was thinking what a f**k ! I speak in English for 5 minutes and she only need 5 words in Russia to translate all that. "wow" that’s a effective language  yea right !So I ask the interpreter what my "brides" answered was to all my questions ? The interpreter thinks for a while and then say something in Russian to my "bride" how answered with 3 words. The interpreter say to me lot of things about my "bride" what she answered to my questions. I think again! "wow" effective language ! We went back to the hotel and I ask my "bride" if she wants to join me in my room so we can be self for a while. We had two separate rooms because my "bride" wanted to be serious... The interpreter translate , and my "bride" say that she will come to me in 5minutes for some reason. After 15 minutes she knocks on my door, she come in and sit down on a chair so far away from me as possible, I told her to sit beside me she come more in to the room and sit down.. she still having her outdoor shoes on her. I ask her if she wants something to drink, she nod her head and I gave her a drink from the mini bar. She drink quickly and wanted to go back to her room for a "rest", she only visit me for like 10-15 min. She look unconvertible the hole time. After 2 hours she and the interpreter show up at my door they wanted to have dinner! Earlier that day we had a discussion about food and I say I don't like raw fish. So guess what , they bring me to a sushi place and order sushi for 100$ without asking me if I think it's okay. I order some small dish with meat. Under the hole dinner they did not talk to me so much only a few words. The interpreter at this time show me a attitude the hole time, after we was suppose to go out for a drink. But the interpreter went straight back to the room without a word. I ask if we can go out like we talk about , but she only say that my "bride" was tired... I whas thinking what a f**k ! they "rest" for 2 hours they say and we eat for 1 hour and now they are tired?? The weekend continued like that , the interpreter just push her show... I can say like this! I'm not the most good looking guy but I'm not the ugliest either, I was polite the hole time. I can understand if you meet someone on the internet and when you meet in real life you not feel the same. But I have show her my real photos of me so she should know how I look and after all the time we chat at the site she should have a good view of me. But please she acted like she despise me the hole time! And when I read Steven's story I recognize my date. /Martin Last edited on Friday February 26th, 2010 07:56 pm by Maxsys |
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| Posted: Saturday May 22nd, 2010 07:05 pm |
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Steven and Martin, listen here, you are both right. Im currently working as an interpreter for dream-marriage and i get paid for every letter that a foreign man sends to a woman i represent. I would not agree that all the messages are scam, most are real. Im writting personally to each and every one after reading man's profile, but what you are right about is that it's all a big and messy money-making business, im really sorry for you both. When i read your stories, i felt really bad and down, hate thinking that we got women like that!!! Please do not think that all women are the same.... and yes, as you might have guessed i hate my job Greetings from Ukraine
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| Posted: Sunday June 27th, 2010 08:10 am |
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Hello everyone and dream marriage is a scam . I have been using them for 3 months I also requested information from women there for a fee and their number did not work. I have been trying to call the women for 3 weeks and even wrote to dream marriage they say the woman have their phone off or they need credits to talk.. but once I ask them to confirm their profile they deleted me from their web sight.. huuum the worker at dream marriage asked me to make an appointment to speak with the women to see what is a matter I told them I already paid you for the number now you want me to pay more money to ask the girl hey is this your number.. they are a scam and only want your money do not trust them at all
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| Posted: Sunday July 18th, 2010 10:02 am |
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andym Member
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Hi, i was member for 3 days....but its a totally Ripoff dont do chatting cost you lot of credits and when you ask for private email or msn you dont get answer ..so dont do it its all fake for sure.. they are greedy bastards hope they burn in HELL !!!
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| Posted: Friday August 13th, 2010 07:41 pm |
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THINK about it, guys!!! I joined Dream-Marriage in February -- "Silver" plan, $10/month -- and while I never tried to call or visit anyone, or to see their videos, or to (video) "chat", I DID pony up about $50-$80 in order to WRITE these girls ... (This was before I knew for a FACT what a SCAM it was! I guess *I* should've thought about it!) The first day I joined, I had 180+ messages in my inbox!!! And almost ALL of them from gorgeous, half-naked 18-to-25-year-old girls!!! While it eventually tapered off to 30-50 messages a day (!), I always thought that SOMETHING was not quite right ... Many of these messages had these gorgeous, half-naked girls professing their INSTANT love for me -- or their instant desire to have SEX with me!!! Now, I'm not bad-looking, in a "cute" sort of way -- especially in the 2006 pic that I posted -- but I'm frickin' 46 YEARS OLD -- which is older than most of these "girls" FATHERS!!! Flattering??? Yes in-DEED-y!!! But "not so much" when I started getting the exact SAME messages from the exact SAME "girls" -- or, worse yet, from OTHER "girls"!!! -- and I started to realize that something was WRONG here ... And ALWAYS, the "girls" beg and plead for me to write BACK -- because that's how D-M makes its MONEY!!! Guys, if it seems "too good to be true" ............... Do I even have to SAY the rest??? I started sending my OWN "form letters" asking why gorgeous young women would be writing ME -- and professing LOVE and DESIRE for me -- and I even started sending my OWN (PG-13) raunchy "sex-fantasy form letter" in reply to THEIR sex-fantasy letters ... I just mimicked their unique "sex-talk" style -- "your hard male tool", "your little boy", etc. -- and to THAT, they essentially replied, "OOH!!! Send me MORE!!!" (More for D-M, that is!!!) Right now, I'm only on there to admire the photos of the MODELS they use -- I mean, really, how could they be anything BUT models??? -- and to read the occasional letter from a "friendly face" -- i.e., a PAID WRITER who nonetheless has PAID ATTENTION to what I've written in the past (who remembers what THEY'VE written in the past!) Some of these writers are pretty good at what they do, and they can concoct some elaborate -- and entertaining! -- STORIES and SPIELS ... So I guess, for $10/month, I'm still on there for the (marginal) ENTERTAINMENT value -- since I don't watch TV!!! But I absolutely WILL NOT be cheated out of MORE than $10/month!!!  Kevin (T.)
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| Posted: Friday August 20th, 2010 11:03 pm |
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rose.sokolova wrote:Steven and Martin, listen here, you are both right. Im currently working as an interpreter for dream-marriage and i get paid for every letter that a foreign man sends to a woman i represent. I would not agree that all the messages are scam, most are real. Im writting personally to each and every one after reading man's profile, but what you are right about is that it's all a big and messy money-making business, im really sorry for you both. When i read your stories, i felt really bad and down, hate thinking that we got women like that!!! Please do not think that all women are the same.... and yes, as you might have guessed i hate my job WE MUST FIGHT BACK AND STOP THIS FRAUD DREAM M ... MANY 100 OF MEN IS LOSING THEIR WEALTH AND ALL THEIR MONEY FOR A LIE AND A FALSE DREAM, GIRLS THAT GETTING PAID TO CHAT AND WRITE EMAILS AND ALL OTHER KIND OF SICK GAMES WITH PEOPLES SEARCH FOR GENINE LOVE. IF WE WORK TOGHETER AND FILE AND CONTACT THE FBI THAT IS SUSPICIOUS OF SITES LIKE DM WE WILL WIN. READ ALL: http://www.agencyscams.biz/Alert.html AND: READ: "I don't care what the agencies tell you. This is PROOF that the agencies are hiring girls to write letters and chat on video. If the agency tells you that they do not do this, well, let me explain. The main agency, in the USA, does nothing. All they do is count money. It is the local office in the Ukraine that is hiring girls. That local office is supplying girls and profiles to ALL these scam agencies. The local agencies (offices) are hiring girls and scamming you. So, when the main agency in the USA tells you that they do not scam and they do not pa girls to chat and write leters, it is, in fact, the truth. THEY don't do it themselves. It is their affiliates in Ukraine that do it. But those offices in Ukraine are partners/affilaiates of the main agency in the USA. They are one team. They are both scamming you. You can NEVER know if the girl in the profile is writing the letter herself, or if the girl you are video-chatting with is getting paid or looking for love. ALL these agencies are now doing this. These classified ads are PROOF. There is NO way that any man should EVER use these agencies. These ads are all the proof ANY man would ever need." AND: http://agencyscams.com/Why/ukrainian-marriage-agency-scam.html AND: http://agencyscams.com/Why/dream-marriage-complaints.html ANDhttp://agencyscams.com/Why/dream-marriage-agency.html NOW TRIES DREAM M TO SHUTDOWN THE TRUTH WITH FALSE WEBSITE: http://www.russian-women-forum.com/viewforum/Avoid-Scams/Agency-Scams-vs-AgencyScams.html
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| Posted: Saturday August 21st, 2010 03:12 am |
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rose.sokolova wrote:Steven and Martin, listen here, you are both right. Im currently working as an interpreter for dream-marriage and i get paid for every letter that a foreign man sends to a woman i represent. I would not agree that all the messages are scam, most are real. Im writting personally to each and every one after reading man's profile, but what you are right about is that it's all a big and messy money-making business, im really sorry for you both. When i read your stories, i felt really bad and down, hate thinking that we got women like that!!! Please do not think that all women are the same.... and yes, as you might have guessed i hate my job
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| Posted: Saturday August 21st, 2010 03:06 pm |
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jk1983 Member
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rose.sokolova wrote:Steven and Martin, listen here, you are both right. Im currently working as an interpreter for dream-marriage and i get paid for every letter that a foreign man sends to a woman i represent. I would not agree that all the messages are scam, most are real. Im writting personally to each and every one after reading man's profile, but what you are right about is that it's all a big and messy money-making business, im really sorry for you both. When i read your stories, i felt really bad and down, hate thinking that we got women like that!!! Please do not think that all women are the same.... and yes, as you might have guessed i hate my job I also wanna show this evidence: "Is the Dream Marriage site a scam? In: Marriage [Edit categories] [Improve] YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! scam!!!!!!! see http://agencyscams.com/Blacklist.html Also I have had direct experience Further Evidence Dream Marriage is a SCAM and should be prosecuted in the USA. My friend and I both joined dream-marriage.com. We can confirm this site is a SCAM. Here is some more conclusive evidence: 1./ Dream Marriage is writing the letters in reply NOT the girls we write to ! My friend is a lot older than I totally different looks and lifestyle our profiles and letters to the girls on Dream Marriage are poles apart... he is a multi-millionaire with pictures driving his new Bently. I am poor with pictures driving my VW but ...... We both get identical letters in response from the same ladies, the only change is the name at the beginning of the letter in reply.. 2./ Dream Marriage is writing the letters in reply Not the girls we write to ! We have had identical responses within 12 minutes of us sending a letter to the girl. We compose 2 totally different letters from 2 totally different guys. We send the letters to Dream Marriage in the USA where these letters are supposedly translated into Russian and send to the girl's agents office in the Ukraine who contact the girl. The girl then receives our letters reads them and writes a reply in her Russian language and send these replies in Russian to her Agent in the Ukraine who forward it to Dream Marriage in the USA who translate the letters to English and then send these letters to us here in Australia. ALL THIS TAKES IS 12 MINUTES. Absolutely amazing ?... NO it's IMPOSSIBLE! DREAM MARRIAGE IS A LIE AND A CON and their actions are ILLEGAL both in the USA and in my Country. BE WARNED DO NOT SEND DREAM MARRIAGE MONEY !!!!!!!!!! here is a selection of others also scammed: Re: http://www.dream-marriage.com are scammers do not trust them!!! by englishman50 on Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:12 pm These people make me sick!...there are so many genuine, lonely guys out there who maybe just want another chance to find happiness before its too late. I saw the advert for dream marriage and i must say that initially it looked convincing. Fortunately i registered but didnt subscribe immediately. One week later i have God knows how many Emails and my `messages` from beautiful girls in their 20`s have amounted to 440!...I`m a 50 year old guy and i know that there is no way that this amount of messages can possibly be genuine! This should be the warning sign to anyone. Russian women may prefer a slightly older man but even they have their limitations and they are getting fussier all the time regarding age requirements. It would im sure be quite rare for a 21 year old russian beauty to be interested in a 50 year old man let alone a couple of hundred! Lets get a reality check guys, i know its flattering to apparantly receive all that attention but its a sure sign that the site is a scam! You only have to compare the response rate from a genuine site like Elenors models to realize this. Re: http://www.dream-marriage.com are scammers do not trust them!!! by stoppedscam on Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:41 pm They are without a doubt a scam. I got curious and signed up to see just how bad it was. I'm not a bad looking guy, I stay in shape and what not, I don't fit the normal profile of men they see online normally. Anyway within the first 24 hours I received over 720 emails! Ok I'm know I'm not a bad looking person and I do stay in shape, but please if I was Brad Pit I could understand that many emails THAT fast. Of course I didn't sit there and read all the emails, I did pick out 1 and responded to it (a beautiful young woman in her early 20's, I'm in my late 30's). I picked out one of the few profiles that didn't have the normal stripper type pictures posted. We exchanged a few emails, chatted a few times and she seemed real enough, actually she seemed like an honest person. Now during this time I'm still getting hundreds of emails a day. I mentioned to her that I thought the site was a scam (seeing what response I would get) and she would say "when we meet, I'll tell you everything". I went along with the cat and mouse game for a bit. …. The next day I set-up a fake profile with a picture of a man who I found on the web by searching google images for "drug addicts". I managed to find a picture of a male crack head who looked like he had been beaten with the ugly stick since birth. Well the fake profile with the drug addicts picture got over 200 emails in the first 10 hours! Now back to the story, before I could tell the young lady whom I was talking to about the proof I had that the site was a scam, she sends me a message saying that she has a surprise for me. I have no idea what she is talking about, but then I looked over in my personal email, my private email, and I saw a letter from her. In one of our conversations she asked me my full name, I didn't think much of it and gave it to her, anyway at that point she looked me up on google and found me. She had done this same day I gave her my name in chat. She had seen all my pictures and such on my myspace page and other normal social networking sites and she knew what we talked about in chat was the person she found on the web. I had told her while we where chatting that I was only talking to her and what not. She confessed to having 7 other girls write me and send me pictures to see if I responded to them to "test me" as she put it. Once I had passed all her test sort of speak that is when she decided to contact me for real. The first thing she told me was the truth about the site, keep in mind I have told her nothing about my "fake drug addict profile" at this point. She told me that the site sends out intro letters for them and they are required to answer every letter. They are required to sit and chat with guys for hours and only show interest in them, the normal tell them what they want to hear scenario. She confirmed that at best 5% of the women that are actually on the site are real, the other 95% of them are just working. She admitted to falling into the 95% of them, it was just a job. Funny ending, I originally went on that site to see the extent of the scamming going on after reading all the reports, you know like having to slow the car down and check out that nasty accident. She was on the site just to do a job and never intended to meet somebody that actually interested her. Now we talk on the phone daily and chat daily on a mutual free site of course with no agency involved. She's still in shock that she met somebody she actually liked at work, much less somebody 15 years older then her, but don't be fooled it is just a job for them. Being on that site is their job. Before you ask, I'm not a rich guy, she didn't look me up on the internet and find out I had all kinds of money or anything (I'm lower middle class at best lol), she just said I seemed like such a "normal" person with a real life and that it got her interested in me, that I didn't come onto her with sex on my mind. Also mentioned if more men where as respectful and normal in their conversations that she could see how more women there to scam would find themselves in an odd position, to actually end up liking the guy the originally set out to scam. Hope this helps P.S. this is also one of the VERY rare cases in which the woman in the photo's was actually the girl I was talking to, this really caught me by surprise. First question I asked her when she confessed, because I know they can "fake" the video chat on the agency end. I thought there is no way this is really her, but she has since sent me many photo's and we have video chatted together through my personal web server. I have to admit that REALLY surprised me. " http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_the_Dream_Marriage_site_a_scam And: http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/dream-marriagecom-c209354.html And http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/Forum/index.php?topic=8944.msg166544 Last edited on Saturday August 21st, 2010 03:07 pm by jk1983 |
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| Posted: Sunday August 22nd, 2010 07:55 pm |
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jayposer2000 Member
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After reading the first repsonse advocating the websites legitimacy, I was stunned. Did the author of that post actually think we were buying it? His grammar and prose were, clearly, that of someone not familiar with the english language. I was contemplating joining this 'service', but was always a little skeptical. Thanks to all who contributed their experiences. It was eye opening, and much appreciated. One site i found for LOCAL (Canada) dating, is plentyoffish.com. I can say, from experience, that this is a real dating website that is absolutely free. I have recently found, that there are women from Russia, and other places overseas, joining the website. While i havent corresponded with any yet, i believe this type of forum is legit. Real Russian women who, actually, would like to meet men overseas. And in case your wondering, NO, i do not work for this site. I just happen to know its free, and might be an answer to what you guys are looking for.
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| Posted: Sunday August 22nd, 2010 08:12 pm |
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jk1983 Member
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jayposer2000 wrote:After reading the first repsonse advocating the websites legitimacy, I was stunned. Did the author of that post actually think we were buying it? His grammar and prose were, clearly, that of someone not familiar with the english language. I was contemplating joining this 'service', but was always a little skeptical. Thanks to all who contributed their experiences. It was eye opening, and much appreciated. God bless Jay you are a good person. If the world was more like you ohh so much better existance! I have also now enough evidence to put dream-marriage.com down, they are scared of me and Jim. A lawsuit is coming and all men you will get your money back and if possible I hope we can find the 5 percent of the serious girls that want to meet a man. Also the inside info from a DM.com has confirmed all that you see here. Also the staff from DM.com site do not argue back anymore against all the evidence and news paper ads and more they know its over now. I have been in contact with FBI and US Goverment and Governour Arnold, and more will come. To get my money back from DM.com is not hard but all men shall have theirs back is the goal. But what hurts me most is the false hope the site gave... I want a girl from ukraine that I talked to in DM.com site. But it might have been staff from DM or girls that were paid as 95 percent are to chat and do video and mess to scam.. I curse them dream-marriage for destoying peoples hearts ... and robb us....... and scam us...
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| Posted: Sunday August 22nd, 2010 08:28 pm |
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jk1983 Member
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1234 wrote:All I want to say is that there is always two sides to the coin, I can testify that the expression two sides of a coin was used by DM.com staff Jeanna in conversation between I and her, proberly Jeanna from DM date site.. Last edited on Sunday August 22nd, 2010 08:30 pm by jk1983 |
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| Posted: Sunday August 22nd, 2010 08:41 pm |
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jayposer2000 Member
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I see the website owner or admin from Khersongirls is posting here. And im sure his claim is that, the site is 100 percent real. Im just skeptical off all of those types of sites now. The girls, on that paticular site, look authentic, as they are all not 'models'. But could that be just another rouse to get our money. Anyone on here had experience with that site? And thanks JK1983. Oh, and im sure that the expression 'two sides to the coin' being used in both examples is more than just coincidence. And i did check out a few profiles from the website i mentioned in my above post. There are alot of interesting, young women on there looking for someone. They arent necessarily looking for marraige, and i doubt they are looking for some rich, old mans money. But if your like me, late 20's and fairly attractive, and are looking for an interesting foreign person to correspond with, it might work for you. Myself, im looking for someone foreign, to show me the sites of their country, and then continue travelling the rest of the world with me. Not necessarily on my dime, i might add. haha
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