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| Posted: Tuesday August 24th, 2010 12:25 pm |
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New extremely important evidence and facts: http://kievdatingscams.blogspot.com/ Last edited on Tuesday August 24th, 2010 12:27 pm by jk1983 |
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| Posted: Saturday August 28th, 2010 12:16 am |
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What i have found on the "dream marriages" website is that as soon as you say something "controversial" the woman you are talking to is suddenly no longer available! When she returns she says her computer is playing up, which i believe she believes. What i think has happened is the translator has pulled the plug! Suddenly the woman comes back with some stupid question you have answered a month before, like where are you? The same place i was when you asked me that when i first contacted you, a month ago! I believe the woman have no idea what is going on but the translators are told what is an acceptable question and what is not......what an irony it is given that all the women are from countries that were part of the former Soviet Union. My advice to any man using this site, if you find a woman you want to get to know, spend enough credits so you can get her personal details and get the hell away from that website.
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| Posted: Wednesday October 6th, 2010 05:32 pm |
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Ok so i met a girl on Dream Marriage and chatted to her on line,we got on so i thought this is just too good to be true. I am 51 she is 26 I went over to the Ukraine and we stayed in Odessa (this was just 2 weeks ago) We did all of the things a couple do,she paid her way i paid for the hotel and food. I got back and she text me a couple of times the day i got back and i told her i would take down my profile now we had met as i did not need to find another woman. 2 days later she asked me to put my profile back up as she cannot see the photos and letters i sent her and she could talk to me on skype from the agency. Now i found this strange not only that she was still at the agency but still chatting to other men when she had said she starts work at 9am and is on the site until the early hours when i have already gone to bed. Anyway i had it out with her this morning as i had seen her on line last night at 8pm gmt and when i got up at 05.30gmt she was still there,i worked and looked again at 8am and still there so i sent the message.....no real job today then? too much work at the agency? This had the effect i thought it might....lots of anger and telling me i did not understand so i asked why is your profile still there? She said you understand it is a marriage agency and we cannot marry as you are not divorced? So yes i understand but why there all night when you are supposed to work at 9am? She ranted on until around 12 noon gmt then said she had to work......really? sleep would be on my mind after so many hours at an agency talking all night. The out come so far is she text me to tell me she has asked the agency to take her profile down........shame as i really fell for her hook line and sinker,i started looking about this scam just yesterday as yes i must be a little slow but you live and learn . She did however ask if i had a dictaphone while i was talking to her and a girl was talking in russian in the background but she told me she was at work.......little did she know i could see her and if she is a contract manager for a large company i will eat anybodys hat  you dont wear a hoodie if you do that job.To be continued......... Attachment: Tatiana.jpg (Downloaded 109 times)
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| Posted: Wednesday October 6th, 2010 05:52 pm |
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Tyduff. I must help you... This women you have on picture is not honest with you... She have tried to chat with me several times and sended me letters.......... Letters in adult talk... If you meet here I can confirm she is still talking with other men in adult talk... I feel sorry for you.... Do not trust women from that site.. Many are working and earns money... They are most of them lying for you and me too... and the Men.. Tell me more what happends in here, and I will help you get justice. The site knows the terms. They promised to stop all forms of scams and ban all scam girls.. They fear Jim and me. Much evidence against them. I pray for you that she will be honest with you. She wanted to chat with me online just for some months or so ago...
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| Posted: Wednesday October 6th, 2010 06:43 pm |
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Tyduff wrote: Ok so i met a girl on Dream Marriage and chatted to her on line,we got on so i thought this is just too good to be true. I PRAY FOR YOU THAT SHE WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU AND STOP TALKING WITH OTHER MEN AND STOP USING THE SITE... YOU DESERV HONESTY AND A GOOD GIRL. I AM MAD THAT SHE TALKED WITH ME WHEN SHE MEET YOU, AND TRIED SEVERAL TIMES CHAT WITH ME ONLINE.. I KNOW NOW THAT SHE PLAYED ME TOO. I TESTED HER TO SEE IF SHE WAS REAL WITH A NASTY MESS, SO SHE WASENT A SPAM ROBOT OR A TRANSLATOR OR SOMETHING... EVEN MY WEIRD NASTY TEST MESS SHE REPLIED THAT SHE DID NOT HATE ME, OR HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST ME... I PRAY FOR YOU THAT SHE STOP USING THE SITE AND MARRY YOU. I MYSELF CANNOT DEAL WITH LYING BITCHES OR THEM WITCH WORKS IN THAT SITE TO SCAM MEN OF MONEY, THE GIRLS 95 PERCENT AND AGENCIES IN UKRAINE AND RUSSIA... US SITE TRIES TO FIGHT THIS NOW, I AND JIM FORCED THEM. SO I HOPE IT WILL BE BETTER. I RECIEVED MY LETTERS FROM HER 17 ANS 18 AUGUST 2010 AND AFTER SEVERAL CHAT REQUESTS. I AM HURTED THAT SHE MEET YOU BEHIND MY BACK, AND YOU ARE HURTED THAT SHE TALKED WITH GUYS........ BEHIND YOUR BACK.. I HOPE YOU FIND A GOOD WOMEN OR I HOPE SHE WILL BE HONEST. DO NOT TRUST THE TRANSLATORS FROM THE SITE... FIX OWN TRANSLATORS. Attachment: 921310.JPG (Downloaded 108 times)
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| Posted: Wednesday October 6th, 2010 07:01 pm |
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TYDUFF TATIANA IS WORKING FOR THE SITE AS 95 PERCENT DOES.......... SHE HAS PROBERLY NO REAL JOB, BUT GETS PAYED BY CHATTING WITH MEN IN CHAT AND MESS FROM AGENCIES: http://agencyscams.com/Why/ukrainian-marriage-agency-scam.html
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| Posted: Wednesday October 6th, 2010 08:56 pm |
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TYDUFF My understanding were that Tatiana was intrested in me. But I want you and her to be togheter, because you meet the women. I do not wish to destroy anything, but just confirm in Jesus name, she sended me letters in august 17 and 18 2010 and tried to chat several times after. I hope she leave the site and only be with you my friend. You deserv the best, I feel soo sorry for all men... You have lost much money to travel to her and get her contact details... God bless.
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| Posted: Thursday October 7th, 2010 01:32 pm |
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Thanks for being open and honest. I am also sorry she led you on but from my experience it cost less than rooney paid and i got a couple of fantastic days in the sun,a hotel on the beach with Dolphins and a jacussi in my room which we used to our full advantage. I know its not what you want to hear but i thought it was well worth the money. So tell me what is the Adult chat? May be i can go on there in another name and annoy her! LoL
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| Posted: Thursday October 7th, 2010 01:41 pm |
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TYDUFF What a great person you are. You see all the positive ! In even bad things. I hope you get her to be honest with you and after marry you. Adult chat. Its talking about adult stuff but in ordinary chat. I tested her to see after all people complaints that she was a real lady, and not a spam robot or someting... I recieved in one year almost 7500 messages.......... so it was a bit much... She is proberly working at the agency as many girls do... Scamming men.. No I did not wanna hear that, the good thing is that you are happy even in bad situations. But if you want to report them agency and her and so on I am around and Jim.
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| Posted: Thursday October 7th, 2010 06:05 pm |
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Thanks for your understanding,i think there are many good guys looking for something they cannot have. But we can all dream....after all if we did not have our fantasy what would we do? I told her to day what i thought on skype... [16:57:51] Tyrone Duffy: As long as you are not sleeping around i dont care who you talk to [16:58:40] Tyrone Duffy: You dont need to look for a husband [16:58:49] Ирина: I suggest to stop to you to continue all this circus, not be the little boy, you want that I have returned you money for a trip and my information? There are no problems I all to you will return, name to me the sum and I will send to you in 4 months, I now do not have money [16:58:51] Tyrone Duffy: you need to be looked after [17:00:13] Tyrone Duffy: I dont want your money,i had a fantastic time and i dont care what you do for your job but do not lie to me [17:01:34] Tyrone Duffy: I know you enjoyed our time also or why would you stay with me? [17:01:40] Ирина: It is NOT my WORK WHY YOU DID NOT WRITE to me THIS INFORMATION TO our MEETING And HAVE not checked up me TO our MEETING, I bad and you do not arrange, I cannot prove you anything [17:03:23] Tyrone Duffy: So why you cannot explain why you are there all night from now until next day? [17:04:33] Ирина: I feel that very soon I will start to regret that have connected the life with you [17:04:56] Tyrone Duffy: I hope not,the question is not difficult [17:06:15] Ирина: The most insulting that you have found the most fair girl in Ukraine and offend and humiliate it. It should be a shame to you [17:06:36] Tyrone Duffy: So answer the question and all will be well [17:07:12] Ирина: I will not answer questions while you do not marry me [17:07:38] Tyrone Duffy: [17:08:06] Tyrone Duffy: I would marry you today if i could [17:08:33] Tyrone Duffy: And you know this. [17:08:50] Ирина: I thought that we already native people, but there is that I for you another's person [17:09:21] Tyrone Duffy: Sorry i do not understand the sentance? [17:09:42] Ирина: (devil) [17:10:10] Ирина: I did not expect from you such pressure, Well that went well So i will text her then skype her tonight when i get in from the office....give her a little room to calm down....still i think its nice for a woman to have so much passion dont you?
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| Posted: Thursday October 7th, 2010 06:39 pm |
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Tyduff wrote:Thanks for your understanding,i think there are many good guys looking for something they cannot have. TYDUFF You deserv a good girl, few people is so honest as you are. Without trust and honesty nothing can last... I myself value that very high. What a girl........ I know we can dream always... I know the feeling..... I must say if the girls do not realize that beuty comes from most part the inside personality, its their big misstake. I do not understand why can she not be honest with you and answer your quastions?.... Can she write so good English by herself?.. I have seen almost 90 or more percent of all girls i talked to online both day and night at the website... And they claim to have time for an ordinary work.... They sleep never??????????? I hate lies....... I hate when they lie....... Many girls lie in face when I ask them do you work for the site? Then why are you online all nights and days whole months...? I work from home so I can see them online too much.. Have the site on as I work beside.. Also some with only English knowledge basic... = almost none. They write back in 0,0001 seconds very fast in online chat... My friend from Germany writes back in 2 min when he translate it and writes back... So many girl in online chat is not the girls in profile we talk to but translators playing them....... I feel sorry for you why can she not be honest and be in truth! Answer the quastions... You see her real side is coming forward... I dream also to meet somebody in there, but most of them is working to scam men with the agencies... Some even have boyfriends in Ukraine and Russia. Its good that you stepped forward and said I meet her, so people know she is your girl! I never wanna share a girl........... I will with many visitors wait on the next letter from you. Its good that you warn people!
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| Posted: Friday October 8th, 2010 10:39 am |
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Well i am very confused now. I spent lots of hours on Skype to her trying to get to the bottom of the hours she is at the agency. The good thing is i got a good insight to what happens. So when a woman is showing as online with the cam on she is at the agency as i could see much better on the skype than on the agency cam what gos on. Its only a small room with 3 - 4 computers from what i can see. i logged on and started chattin at around 7.30 pm GMT and i could see it was cold in the office as she had a thick coat on and while we where talking about things in general another girl knocked the door and she let her in. She introduced her to me and told her this is my man. I told her that i was in contact with someone she had spoken to in August and she told me she met no one else just me. Her job is part time and tomorrow from 11am - 2pm then home to sleep at 3pm and back to agency when she is ready,when i ask her why back to agency she says very lonley this is why i join to look for husband,only friends are here as her mother and father have her son at the moment. She cannot afford to go to internet cafe let alone reply to my sms as she had to keep buying credits for the phone when i phoned her. Another knock at the door...this time a man enters.....he says something in russian and i ask are you in trouble? she says no i tell him you are my man after around an hour she has done her make up and is looking stunning and warmer and tells me i must go get coffee and ciggies and will return to you.......ok so i look on dm and she also gos offline on there. The odd thing i find is there are lots of girls photos on DM but only a few showing on cam........then it hit me! the man is answering mail......and is there in case an angry customer turns up. So i am the lucky one.....i know where she is and why she is there but she still says she has no money for it,i went back on a few times on skype when she sent me a message the last time was 7am her time and she was going home and she had work at 11am. I plan to go back to see her soon but if anything else occurs between now and then i will be sure to post. May be it is that it is a vastly different culture to what i am used to and i just am over protective but why else would she bother with me?What would she want? i have nothing to offer her apart from a get out of country card if we got married yet she knows i am not divorced yet but still entertains me.
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| Posted: Friday October 8th, 2010 10:51 am |
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Tyduff wrote:Well i am very confused now. It sounds very weird this... But promise yourself and all here, never trust the russian man... Its weird ... I think the agencies in Ukraine are dangerous or so. Some people posted about that... I can quoute: Hi ........I have read your web page in regards to DM and also about the law suit that you are engaged in against Anastasia International, who I believe is associated with DM. I have come to many of the conclusions others have in regards to DM.. I have been a member of DM for roughly 6 months, and have spent many thousands of dollars communicating with ladies in Ukraine, whom I believed had honest intentions. Recently, however, I had an interesting discussion with a young lady on DM who is from Russia, and claims that the site is a complete scam. In her words 95% of the girls, especially those from the Ukraine are simply there for monitary purposes. Most are too clever to ask you for the money...they know that would be too obvious. Instead they string you along for months promissing a relationship with you, all the while being paid for their services to DM. In her words....the site (DM) receives 50% of the funds you pay for chatting, sending letters, etc., the Agencies receive 25%, and the girls receive 20-25%!!!!!!!!! If this is true, obviously their intentions are not sincere. Rather they are there to get you to spend money on that site.. When I learned this from her I felt physically ill. I mean I have actually been to Ukraine and met with two of these girls. They seemed genuine, and interested........at least that is how it appeared to me. But maybe they are just very clever and, well practiced. So...I am hoping that I can gain some insight from you, and also learn, what if anything can be done to punish those involved in this scam. DM is located in Nevada, USA....so cant there be some legal recorse here?? The only question is this....how do you ever prove it??? Anyhow....I hope to hear back from you and receive some guidance. If possible I would really like to get these guys.... Sincerely, **** http://jimslists.com/agencies/dream-marriage-complaints.html " And: Hi Jim, How useful this will be to you i am not sure as i really dont want to damage someone. I was using the DM website last year and actually flew over to ***(small, Russian city) to meet with a lady, her name ****. SHe seemed genuine enough and turns out she was as we got engaged and then arranged Visa's to come to the UK. In a nut shell it was my decision that it would not work and she has gone back. Getting to the point she has now been approached by another agent of DM based in ****(small, Russian city) and offered 60% of all she generates. To give you an idea of figures, as in the original agency she was also their translator, she was generating around $3000 US a month. She needs work so has taken that opportunity and now sits there 6 days a week, 8 hours a day. She tells me that the agancy she works for now only have 2 girls working in this way, the rest are on 20% and are supposidly looking for love. ****'s reasoning for it sitting morally comfortabley is that the men on the site are all the same ones who were there a year ago, and send the same mails to many girls, most she says are just there to play and have fun, so she figures that if they want to pay for that then she is happy to take the money. Hope this is an insight for you **** Here is a little more... hi Jim i am in Russia and Ukraine all the time .i own a business here,have been married once before to a Russian and speak Russian well . i can say with all honesty that DMs is totally geared to milk any man dry ,there credits system is flawed and charges at a rate they don't advertise ,credits go missing etc . i have two friends that are currently working as translators for this site and they are making heaps of money ......i don't agree with the way they are doing this ......but i will tell you how they operate . the girls are encouraged aggressively to chat ,not letters just chat and it is here that the translator makes maximum dollars the pressure that the translator and the sites local agency affiliate put on the girl is criminal .......endless emails and sms and calls are made to ensure she chats as often as possible . if by chance a guy comes to visit ,they say you must use all there services .eg transfers ,translation ,visa support ,background check and a fictitious document they call a travel application ......total BS . if the couple are clever they try to split from the site ASAP and are met with threats ,mainly to the girl . she will be told that the man is a people trafficker and criminal . all because they don't want to use the sites over priced services . i know of a girl who was told her man was online talking to other girls and was a known people trafficker and international criminal ,because he refused to have a picture taken with his lady on arrival . when she asked to have her profile removed they said "when you give us your picture of the two of you".......extortion and the unlawful use of a persons identity - international law forbids . the lengths this site and its affiliate regional agencies will go to knows little boundaries when it concerns getting money from a man my background is in the security industry .some of the operators of "some agencies " are from very black backgrounds . there is serious money being made here in Ukraine from this industry and it has a high profile in the darker side of business here . Odessa has become a kind of hub for many agencies there is a company that specialises in providing servers just for the agencies ........the renting of apartments to American men has become a huge money maker and has attracted some serious players because of the larger money from renting versus site fees . these players have in turn become "backers" for the agencies and now call the shots . in some respects its almost prostitution ,and i know of many working girls who already are made to have a profile .if they are paid at all it is very little . a good trick for DMs is accept chat then without saying anything turn on video ....you will catch the girl half asleep ,smoking or reading .......just waiting for chat in her cubicle ,if you chat about email,the sites charges or any complaint you will sometimes see the shadow of a supervisor hovering near by ... smile its very transparent . again these girls get little ,always young and usually on there way home from a nightclub -time difference -that's why they are awake and often look a little tired .its a way for them to earn a little money ,if they know English well enough to keep a chat going . if there is a translator "girl usually goes to her house " -more likely to be a girl who is genuinely interested if she uses translator -then the translator gets the money .smile . the fact that people need to survive here does not escape me .....BUT the exploitation of someones feelings is low on my order of behaviour .these sites and agencies need to be shut down or at the very least men and girls in Ukraine Russia need to be aware of how they are being exploited and by whom and who gets what share of the money that the man inevitably pays when he joins a site like "DMs" i do know for a fact that DMs is desperate for testimonials and pictures there ratings are dropping i have been told by one of there translators . even there own freelance translators/English teachers ,have issues with the way they do business ,but as long as the money is there they will take it . feel free to cut and paste from this letter anything you wish to use on your site . keep up the good work Jim . regards **** http://agencyscams.com/Why/dream-marriage-is-a-scam.html " " "Dear All I would like to inform you that dream-marriage.com is scam website. I made a mistake to trust them and I was cheated and had myself nearly abducted. For this very reason they have no address in the site and do not pass over to them your card details. They are fraudsters!!!! Stay safe please. Alex UK" http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16322"
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| Posted: Friday October 8th, 2010 11:19 am |
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Hi JK, I understand where this is coming from and she speaks english very well,she also has an online translator,so when i send her a word she does not understand she asks me to wait a second while she pastes it and gets the meaning back. She is not making any money out of me as i am on skype and do not talk on DM since we stayed together in Odessa at a hotel that i booked from the Uk. I did not expect her to turn up so was surprised when she did. Although i am now very weary of the relationship i also want to find what the outcome will be,will it all be fine? or will i get abducted and be unable to post on here again ? Lol i hope not! So i am booking a couple of flights for the end of November as her birthday is 1st Dec. I will be there for that as i cannot be there for new year as i will be in Vegas and this pissed her off as she wanted me in Ukraine then.
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| Posted: Friday October 8th, 2010 11:32 am |
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Tyduff wrote:Hi JK, No you are in no danger because you chat with her outside the site with skype. I pray for you. I hope you know what you are doing... Have she proven to be trustworthy...? Without trust nothing can stand. But yes its true she is not getting any money from you. But make sure that she gets away from the site and never meet other men or get payed from them by maybe working at the agency... You deserv the women for yourself! I myself trying to get somebody in the site to trust... But if a man answering the emails........ at Site its sick... JK
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| Posted: Friday October 8th, 2010 04:12 pm |
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Seems they use a company to identify potential customers... http://www.quantcast.com/dream-marriage.com Each photo on the site has a link to quantcat.com and the click through of each girl is measured so they know what the male population is looking for. The website then uses Quantcast to find these people through marketing stratagies. Here is what quantcast says.... Buy Lookalikes Quantcast allows you to define an audience of millions based on the profile of customers you already engage with, and then buy them from the publishers you want to work with. Here's how it works. So then dm can also sell the information they have on their customers to other agencies this is why you get the spam mails from date sites. Thay are really clever ! Marketer QUANTCAST MARKETER transforms your understanding of your audience at each stage of consumer engagement by revealing the demographics and attributes of your impressions, clicks, and leads. http://www.quantcast.com/info/lookalikes
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| Posted: Friday October 8th, 2010 04:57 pm |
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Tyduff wrote:Seems they use a company to identify potential customers... Yes they are clever... It really feels bad that maybe a guy is writing emails replies as at the site and play the girls, you witch saw a guy in the cam... Uhhh I mean maybe most messages is from a guy playing the girls, at the profiles.. I really hope that the girl you meet is honest and do not work at the agency... JK
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| Posted: Friday October 8th, 2010 05:49 pm |
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Error dubble posts... I hope she will be honest with you, and stop working or beeing at agency and the site all the time....... Its a bad sign that she is not telling why she is at agency so often... I will myself try to trust somebody in there... JK Last edited on Friday October 8th, 2010 05:53 pm by jk1983 |
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| Posted: Friday October 8th, 2010 06:06 pm |
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Tyduff wrote:Seems they use a company to identify potential customers... Tyduff I thought come into my mind thanks Jesus. Why did she wanted to pay you the money back for her contact details and tripp? That confirms guilt, she is working for the site proberly and took a share of the money you paid for her contact details and all messages and chatting, as with all men...... Thats why she is at the site togheter with 95 percent the rest of them online day and night... Sick it is and their agencies in Ukraine. Us site staff promised to stop this...
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| Posted: Saturday October 9th, 2010 11:03 am |
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Seems there are a few people coming forward now from DM. This is a link to another website..... http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/total-scam-c156728.html#c738663 Well that was another long night/morning on skype as she kept popping off to chat then coming back again. She looked stunning as normal as i watched her put on her eye liner and brush her hair, i asked her was the top she had on a dress as it is very low cut and she said no it is a t shirt and jeans and she was wearing bracers to hold the jeans up or just for show. I was talking to her when she told me to wait again for her,this was at 04.45 i flicked through some sites and came across the one above and read quite a bit, at 05.23 i could see she was still chatting to some poor sod so continued to read. at 05.45 i left a message on skype saying an hour was long enough to wait and i could see she was busy so i will get some sleep.......Lets see what tomorrow brings whe i get in from a night out with the lads Attachment: 09 oct 10.png (Downloaded 78 times)
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| Posted: Saturday October 9th, 2010 02:54 pm |
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Tyduff wrote:Seems there are a few people coming forward now from DM. Yes indeed people is coming forward and yes there is many complaints..... She is chatting with other men....? Its because she is earning money by chatting with the men as 95 percent does........... It seems to be the biggest online date scam ever. I just hope the US sits stopp this and ban all fake scam girls and agancies in Ukraine. Listen here friend, I found one girl that is honest with me there in the site only one... She knows the site is a scam...... And she is real and honest, another girl had something important to tell about the site scam.. So 5 percent is real and honesta nd do not work or earn money from the site... But those witch chat often and is always online day and night is frauders and scammers togheter with the agencies in Ukraine and Russia, they are all part of it. Us staff I think fight this, but they now about this... Most girls seems to be hired as this for an jobb.
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| Posted: Sunday October 10th, 2010 12:13 pm |
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If you make a draft message the girl you make it to can see it! I went on and added the silver package again as she would not answer and as you cannot send follow ups i made myself clear in the draft that i was upset. Within seconds of saving she was on line telling me i was crazy! No way could she have known what i was doing as this was 6am and i had set skype to offline. She was also showing as offline on skype and as soon as we where talking through skype her available live chat went offline. This confirms they know what you are sending before it is sent! I was so shocked as i was going to change some wording but i think the words hit home hard this time and this is a snippet of the conversation.... [03:25:05] Tyrone Duffy: you want me to pay? [03:25:36] Tyrone Duffy: on dream mARRIAGE? [03:25:50] Tyrone Duffy: TO SEE YOU [03:25:54] Tyrone Duffy: ? [04:06:27] *** Call to Ирина, no answer. *** [04:57:16] *** Call to Ирина, no answer. *** [04:57:44] *** Call to Ирина, no answer. *** [06:03:16] Tyrone Duffy: ? ok [06:30:29] Ирина: creasy man [06:31:34] Ирина: dont make me creasy :@ [06:32:02] Tyrone Duffy: :@ this you do to me again [06:32:25] Ирина: not do this please (u) [06:32:42] Tyrone Duffy: what you want? [06:34:08] Tyrone Duffy: You have time for men who spend money with you but not for one that loves you true [06:35:11] Ирина: stop do this with me. STOP So i may hear from her again.............or not but itis proof that they can see what you write before you send it. Also they are now advertising on plentyoffish with lots of girly ads. Attachment: dream ad.jpg (Downloaded 61 times)
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| Posted: Sunday October 10th, 2010 12:23 pm |
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jk1983 Member
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Tyduff wrote:If you make a draft message the girl you make it to can see it! I do not know what to say more then I feel sorry for you and all victims of men....... She is showing more and more that she is scamming you... I seems...
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| Posted: Tuesday October 12th, 2010 03:44 pm |
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Tyduff Member
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http://dreammarriagescams.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/dream-marriage-nikolaev-affiliate-fine-7000/ Seems thay are being cracked down on now. Yes it is over with us,i could not get her to say why she puts in 12 hours every night but it was nice in Odessa while it lasted..... I have deleted her from my skype and my life. Seems i will look elsewhere in future so look her uo on google guys.... Tatiana ID 921310 Attachment: tatiana 921310.png (Downloaded 58 times)
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| Posted: Tuesday October 12th, 2010 04:12 pm |
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jk1983 Member
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Tyduff wrote:http://dreammarriagescams.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/dream-marriage-nikolaev-affiliate-fine-7000/ Tyduff... I am very sorry...... But its true..... what you founded here... Its a big scam, but only 5 percent are real and honest and do seek love and not money or works at site... Rest 95 percent of the girls and agencies is scam... Very intresting article you founded they needed to pay back money yeeeeeeess. God bless I am always your friend Tyduff! I am sooooooooo mad at the girl you meet ......... That bitch is online often now......... I do not understand why she did not told the truth and lose a so great honest person as you........ She must be crazy...... Most men are assholes and stupied and destroys girls poor butts....... But she really did a big misstake, I sence real true love from you to her, holy love. Thats sooo rare, lust is no love. I wish she would tell you the truth and repent of her sins and ask you and God for forgivness and stop working for the site, and ask please give ma another last chance. J
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