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Posted: Monday November 13th, 2006 05:13 pm |
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I've recently been considering the idea of marriage to a foreign woman, specificly a russian woman. I found your site yesterday and have been reading it avidly. It's an excellent site and thus far I've found it informative.
I mainly just wanted to introduce myself and no doubt will be posting with questions as they come up.Last edited on Monday November 13th, 2006 05:14 pm by Dagon
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Posted: Monday November 13th, 2006 06:45 pm |
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Dagon wrote: I've recently been considering the idea of marriage to a foreign woman, specificly a russian woman. I found your site yesterday and have been reading it avidly. It's an excellent site and thus far I've found it informative.
I mainly just wanted to introduce myself and no doubt will be posting with questions as they come up. Hello Dagon! Welcome aboard!
I'm engaged to an awesome Russian woman who is due to arrive here in Texas, about March 2007. I've found the information on this site to be absolutely top notch. Ronin has accumulated a wealth of knowledge and I'm for one, extremely glad he is sharing that knowledge.
An international woman as a life-partner has got to be the single most awesome experience we can have. Of course, get it wrong, and well, that's what this site is all about, preventing the worst and providing the instruction manual they don't come with! Enjoy, and ask away!
FYI, the ENTIRE world has heard of Katrina and Rita. For Example, my lady is from Moscow, and it has taken up to this last August to convince her that all the devastation brought by those 2 storms is first, something that doesn't happen often, and second did not happen in Houston. Rita didn't help the first concern, however this years lack of storms was a huge plus! I heard more information about Atlantic storms from Russian sources than I did from my local news channels!!
p.s. The more northern countries, which is pretty much most of Europe, all of Russia, LOVE the idea of living in a tropical setting. They tend to view the Gulf Coast as such a place.
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Dagon
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Posted: Tuesday November 14th, 2006 12:09 am |
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After reading much of this site I've come to have some high hopes regarding RW. They sound like the women of my dreams. I like the idea of women I can speak plainly to, without the pretense that is almost required to speak to AW. Just seems like I could really get along with a RW.
I really don't care for AW. I've never had the stomach for prolonged mind games that they all seem to enjoy playing. Which is why I'm 24 years old and I've never really had a GF. In all my time I've run into women maybe 3 or 4 times where I attempted to date them and it was ruined because didn't "wait 3 days before I called her" or I told her "to early" that I liked her. Or actually assumed when she said she'd hooked up with her ex-BF that it was over for me.
From what I've read here, RW don't generally do that. From what I understand they don't play the mind games and are generally very blunt in getting their point across.
Good, thats how I like it.
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Posted: Tuesday November 14th, 2006 06:27 am |
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Dagon,
Welcome to the RussianWomanPrimer!
You are younger than the average guy that is seriously considering RW. Though I have in the last year or so have seen a trend of younger WM seeking RW. When I was your age, RW were not an option at all.
Bear in mind that much of the writing is for the typical WM in his 40s. For you there will be some special challenges. This will be balanced out with the fact that you will not have to face some issues that the 40 something guys need to face.
Feel free to ask questions and soak up as much as you can.
I will move this topic to the 'First Steps' forum. Ask your questions there.
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Dagon
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Posted: Tuesday November 14th, 2006 03:23 pm |
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I will be a bit older when I finally do go through with this. I'm in the process of trying to get back on my feet right now and I'm very confidient about the future. However, it will be at least two years before I would be able to support a wife/family..maybe 3.
So I might very well be 27 before I find my way over there.
Planning this far ahead may seem extreme, but its the best I can do. Really this whole idea of a RWife has given me hope. Now, I know I can get my life on track and when I'm ready go find a wife. As opposed to getting my life on track and hoping some AW I can get along with drops into my lap.
From what I've read, finding and marry a RW and getting her back to the states and trying to make it work with her is not an easy task. So maybe having so much time to prepare will really work in my favor.
So what sort of special challenges do think I will face?
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Posted: Wednesday November 15th, 2006 04:35 am |
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Dagon,
What challenges will a younger WM face? I will speak in general terms. Most I’m sure you are already aware of.
Financial Security - This is something that you have mentioned that you are working on now.
Dating Experience - Comes in handy when determining which RW are serious… about you.
Cultural Experience - This helps to bridging the cultural gap by being sensitive to other world POVs (Russian in particular).
Long Term Relationship Experience - WM pretty much have to lead in this area since few young RW have any long-term relationships (skills).
The Art of Arguing - With age, WM seem to get better at reasoned arguing.
This site endeavors to assist WM as much as possible in form of awareness… forewarn is forearmed. Still, there is nothing that replaces actual experience. As always… YMMV.
Ronin
P.S. As always follow the Words in Stone.
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Posted: Wednesday November 15th, 2006 10:53 am |
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Money, money and more money.
A RW is not a cheap option - at least to start with.
There are the upfront costs of establishing a relationship, visiting your girl, buying her presents, taking her out, hotel bills, air fares, etc. With a little research, you can make a good guess at these costs.
Afterwards., the hidden costs..
When your girl arrives in the US, she will have one suitcase with all her belongings. You will be expected to buy her a new set of clothes (for summer and winter). You will be expected to buy her a full range of cosmetics and don't forget the beauty tools such as a hair drier. After a couple of weeks she will want to upgrade your (singular) apartment to your (plural) home, so there may well be new furniture, bed linen, cooking utensils...the list goes on.
Finally, until she is permitted to work, a monthly allowance for herself.
Remember - "You have to speculate to accumulate" and focus on the long-term rewards.
Trevor
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Posted: Wednesday November 15th, 2006 06:04 pm |
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Ronin, I misunderstood. I thought you were speaking about something in particular.
yes, I'm aware of the basic hurtles I will to overcome.
I know it will be expensive, which is why it will take me at least 2 years maybe 3 to get to the point where I can reasonably pursue this option.
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Posted: Sunday November 26th, 2006 01:31 am |
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Being 26 myself and looking at RW also, some advise...
Get into more relationships. Whether they be girlfriends or friends that are girls, any experience with the opposite sex will do nothing but help you when it comes time for you to write, call, and visit prospective RW. Also getting used to having women around you will help with the shell shock you WILL get on your first and probably second visit to Russia/Ukraine from the exotic nature of the women there. Believe me it is quiet a sight to behold!
Be prepared for a different kind of mind game. Ronin has many topics within this site that cover these and for the most part they cover even the ladies our age. Some are very good (physical persuation over mental games) and others that can be quite tricky to deal with. Take a good look around the forums, Ronin has done a fantastic job of covering the bases.
Be prepared for the arguement/discussions. During the first part of your face to face relationship you will find the occurances when a RW is combative verbally with you (mainly after she is state side with you). This is to find out what kind of man you are and whether you are the leader of the relationship she expects you to be. Unlike the combative nature of most AW who battle for supremacy, a RW will fight to make sure you are a strong enough man to control/lead the relationship and thus your combined futures.
RW our ages may be harder to pull away from Russia/Ukraine. Just like any american child does not really appreciate the enormity of HAVING to work to pay the morgage, car, various insurance, ever lovely taxes, and hundreds of various other expenses, up until around 22 to 24 said RW have been through the school system and may not completely comprehend how hard life is till AFTER entering life after school (just like here). Keep in mind many of the picture/descriptions you see with girls in the 19-23 range may have been put up by the parents or by RW who may have been pressured by parents into putting them up. Sadly you may have wait until they have gone through a year or two of working life before they realize the value of a relationship with an AM.
Lastly the status of a housewife in Russia/Ukraine is a high status indeed for a RW. Keep in mind for atleast the first couple years you will have a very dedicated house wife and life partner, but until she learns english proficiently and acclimates herself to life in the US/England she may not be able to hold a job (or want to) for acouple years. Make sure that even after the thousands of dollars spent bringing your Angel over, you are also prepared to take care of her financially for atleast 4 or 5 years just on your income alone.
I value any imput any of you have with the above and Ronin you have my complete permission to edit or delete any or all of said above if you believe I speak in error. The last thing I want is to unintentionally mislead. Cheers all.
Last edited on Sunday November 26th, 2006 01:39 am by IamCaleum
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Posted: Sunday November 26th, 2006 02:35 am |
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IamCaleum,
Welcome to the RussianWomanPrimer!
Your post is on the money. I could not have said it better. As a matter-of-fact you did say it better.
As you so well pointed out, it’s all a matter of degrees.
The only thing I would comment on is that most of the RW that I dated were 24 years old and younger. The oldest was an ancient 32. It had to do with the distribution of the RW that were available at the agency. This I kid you not! It was difficult to find the quality of RW that I was searching for in the higher age brackets. This fact forced me to consider younger RW.
Still, I did manage to find my first RW Fiance. Her age was 26 when we first met.
She was a natural blond with blue eyes... well that's another story.
Ronin
P.S. Thanks for the good words about the site. It would even be better if you can share them with other sites.
Also,I’m not in the business of editing other people’s posts. Occasionally I will pop in to correct a words or two.
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Posted: Sunday November 26th, 2006 04:20 am |
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Acouple questions for you then. Having married a RW and knowing many others who have, do you see a tendancy for RW to go for 30+ more than 29- or is it due to availability? I still look at this avenue as sort of a last resort so it'll be near 30 before i seriously look to this direction. Having moved all over the US, i've seen how different people are and its much easier to start relationships in country than out!
Second question deals with language. I seem to have this innate preferance to Ukrainian women for some reason, would it be a good idea to atleast take a peak at the language? I already have some Russian stuff from a friend but i understand that language in Russia proper and Ukraine are alittle different.
I forgot the rest of my questions, I wrote them down and lost the paper!
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Posted: Wednesday November 29th, 2006 03:28 am |
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IamCaleum,
Hello, Just to be fair to Dagon, I don't want to hijack his thread in the First Steps forum. Please start another topic and 'cut and paste' you questions. One that this is done I can write freely.
Thanks for your consideration and the great posts.
Ronin
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