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Posted: Wednesday November 22nd, 2006 05:20 am |
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Thinking of a RW with Children…
Many WM are at least initially attracted to RW by their apparent beauty and youth. Despite this tremendous advantage that RW possess, some do carry more than what WM are looking for. It is no secret that RW have children early. If these women find themselves divorced (which is almost certainty) they have very few opportunities to find another husband.
With agencies and personals, RW have a second chance to complete their family again. Typically it is the best of these RW that attempt the foreign marriage option. They are often very beautiful and intelligent while at the same time are more stable than the childless smoking hot RW hotties. Also, if the RW’s child is a boy, she has an added incentive to find happiness in another country. Many RW fear the damage done to their boys by mandatory service in the Russian Army. This video clip is a typical morning exercise. RW want to spare their children from injury whether it be physical or mental.
Another thing going for these RW is that they are often at what I call the best age to have a successful marriage with a WM. This is the mid to late 20s. Since they have children they are thinking very seriously of their future. They have to. Time is running out for them as they know it. Consequently they are very motivated in finding a husband and realize that a WM maybe their best and perhaps only option. These factors and more encourage such RW to look at potential suitors more stringently on their ability to support and raise a family and will over look some to a few minor flaws. This is a great opportunity for those WM that are ready, willing and able to take on having an instant family with a gorgeous RW that would ordinarily be out of one’s reach.
There is a down side. It is rather significant. As you have no doubt already gathered, RW with children are perhaps easier to attract. Still, the fact remains that to have a successful marriage a WM must win the hearts of two or more Russians, ease them through the turmoil of cultural shock, sooth their home sickness and in effect hold up the family single-handedly through the first year or so. This is where there is a high infant mortality rate in relationships. Some RW with children can’t take the pressure. To add to this some WM can’t take the pressure. Combining both factors leads to high failures and early plane trip home to Russia.
The silver lining to this is that one typically will see the handwriting on the wall very early. Often it will be obvious well within three months of arriving in your homeland. I have seen a RW and child fly back home within 2 weeks.
One caveat is to be very careful in considering a RW with child when there is huge apparent age differences involved (~20+). One may believe that RW with child will be more agreeable to huge age differences. To a degree that maybe a correct assumption, however with all assumptions it has a way of biting one in the proverbial place where the sun doesn’t shine. It is rare for a RW to truly love a husband that appears over a generation apart in age. It does happen but don’t kid yourself.
If you find yourself involved with a RW were the apparent age difference is a generation-plus, be positive that you have strong mutual chemistry. It is likely that this chemical bond will be the only thing that will be holding you two together for some time. Make proof positive it is there. If you are, then you will have your riches twice over!
Ronin
More reading: Russian Women the real truth: The Value of Russian Women with Children (Excellent read from this blog article. Added 02/08)
Russian Women 4 Western Men: RW and True Success (Blog article on RW's need for children, added 02/08)
Russian-Luv's: Russian Women with Children (agency site with a good read on the subject. Added 01/08)
A Russian Romance: Why you should marry a RW with child: one man's POV (agency site, added 02/08)
Last edited on Sunday February 3rd, 2008 05:01 am by ronin1
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Posted: Thursday November 23rd, 2006 01:01 am |
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Natalia is very adamant that we register her son's residence in the USA at the Russian Consulate here in Houston, as soon as they get here. Once a young male has his place of permanent residence registered in a foreign country he is mostly shielded from compulsory military service.
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Posted: Sunday January 20th, 2008 11:57 am |
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As I have been coresponding with a woman with a child, this topic interests me.
The part about having to basicly woo two people (mother and child), doesn't faze me.. but there are some other things which give me anxiety.
I think my biggest worry is about the ex.. (the father), and what his feeling my be about taking his child to another country. Our relationship hasn't gotten to the point yet where we have discussed such a thing, but I have to wonder about the legal parental rights should he be opposed.
This also brings up another related subject.. Sure I have heard about the bad Russian men, alchoholics.. etc etc .. but then we also know that Russians are more family oriented.. so I have to imagine that Russian men even though divorced would still want to have relationships with their children.. So I guess I am a bit curious as to how involved the typical Russian man is in this regard.
Although it was many years ago, I am not totaly inexperienced with being involved with a woman (AW) with a child, and an ex, and all the pitfalls that go with this.. but it does give some concerns when you add 5000 miles, a different language, and legal system into the equation.
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Posted: Sunday January 20th, 2008 11:50 pm |
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Unfazzed,
Welcome to the RWP!
Your concerns are well founded. In this case, father's parental rights vary from country to country. Some require father's permission while others don't. Also, those countries that require permission my not enforce it. To top this off the laws and corresponding interpretation and degrees of enforcement can change often and without warning. In any case it is best to have the father's blessing in this matter, however you may have to pay a fee for this priveliage, if you have to bring it up. This is a good area where AM are fleece to be able to have their fiancee's child leave the country. Here are some thing to consider.
- Find out if the father is living.
- Determine if the country requires parental permission to leave the country, (can change at anytime).
- Determine if the country is enforcing parental permissions, (can change at anytime).
- If yes to all the above, ask the RW upfront if the father will give permisssion, (bear in mind that a permission maybe be rescinded at any time by the father).
- Ask the RW if she can obtain written permission before hand. If so ask her to do so, (bear in mind that such letters may be effective for a limited time).
As much as this can be a show stopper for AM/RW relationship, it is often found out late in the relationship process when the two are emotionally involved. Early investigation in this matter can reduce the chances of getting extorted or held for ransom.
Ronin
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