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| Posted: Sunday March 18th, 2007 07:18 pm |
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| Posted: Sunday March 18th, 2007 08:00 pm |
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Turboguy Member
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Hi Rob, I can answer a lot of your questions and even some you didn't ask but you may not like the answers. First answer you won't like. Any Russian women you meet on Match.com are not real. To sign up for Match you need a credit card and credit cards are almost non existant there. Second point, visa's to visit the USA are almost impossible to get for a single Russian Woman. What they usually do is tell you they have all the money for the ticket and they have a visa and then at the last minute come up with some kind of emergency. Sometimes it is that they will have to show financial responsibility at customs and must show $ 500.00 in cash but they will pay you back as soon as they arrive. Then never arrive even though they have sent you flight itineraries and scans of their faked visa. If you are enjoying the correspondence write to them but don't send money. The average scammer like that can write to 800-1100 different guys a day and some who write are men. We call them Fat Yuri's. Believe me, I have heard your story hundreds of times, even from my son and they are NEVER real. There is a good side to what they do. Some of the men who never thought about a Russian woman decide to look for one after. You can find a woman in Russia that is far prettier and built better than you could even dream about in your best dream. They do tend to be strong willed and they are not perfect but they do know how to make a man feel special. There are lots of ways to meet real Russian women. For a beginner I would suggest http://www.freepersonals.ru mostly because it is free. If you really decide you want this then there are sites and ways that are far better. There are a number of techniques men use to meet Russian women. Some use agencies to correspond with them. I would particularly recommend Elena's Models http://www.elenasmodels.com You need to go with one of their paid plans to really have results. I used their platinum membership. Others are merry dating, a pretty woman, bride.ru and lots more. Some guys will go someplace and use agencies for introductions. It is better to go somewhere out of the way a bit. Tver Russia is a good spot and lifetime partners there is good. There are agencies anywhere. Another way guys go is a romance tour. Several of the big agencies to a lot of them. I have done three and I would not recommend the big agency tours at all. The advantage of a tour is that you have a support network. The agency makes a lot of the arrangements and you have other guys along with you to compare notes. There is one small agency that I would recommend highly. The guy running it is a little controversial but he will fight tooth and nail for his guys and you do meet a lot of good women. The one I would recommend is http://www.firstdream.com. Jack Bragg from Texas runs it. I did his fall tour for 4 cities with my son. I was quite satisfied. He charges ballpark $ 500.00 per city and you can do as many or as few cities as you want. You do have to pay for your own transportation and hotels (about $ 50-60 a night) He limits his group to 12 guys. This might be something you want to consider. Russian women are pretty good at accepting their husbands children. Going to Russia or Ukraine is not as scary as you think. English is spoken widely. Most restaurants have english menus If a gal is in the hinderlands she can travel to Moscow and meet you there. Russia requires a visa but there are services that make that easy. Ukraine does not require one. By the way I have been to Russia about 20 times to many different cities. Russian women are not for everyone and finding the right one is never easy or cheap but when you do find the right one it is all more than worth it. Good luck.
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| Posted: Monday March 19th, 2007 03:14 am |
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skippster123 Member
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Thanks. I didn't have my hopes up. The two women sounded too similar with their questions and come ons. It will be interesting to see if the one who is a doctor actually shows up in New York. She asked me for my phone number which I told her I wouldn't give her.
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| Posted: Monday March 19th, 2007 04:10 am |
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ronin1 Administrator
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Skippster123, Turboguy is spot on. Tourist visas to the US are rare. To a gorgeous, young unattached RW, tourist visas are practically non-existant. It's not that Russia won't let them leave, it's the US Embassy will not let them enter because RW with such profiles are prone not to return to their homeland when their visas expire. Like Turboguy said, the silverlining to this cloud is that your eyes are open to the possibility of a RW... one of the best kept secrets of the cold war unleashed but gone un-noticed until now. If you are up to the challange and joys of a RW read the various forums to get sense of what to expect. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Good Luck, Ronin
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| Posted: Monday March 19th, 2007 02:23 pm |
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skippster123 Member
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Both chicks have now asked me for my phone numbers saying they want to call me "to hear my voice." I am not sure what they can do with my phone number but I am not going to give it up. One of them has my Yahoo email. The other has my regular email. I'll just repeat myself that I am going to give them money and see how long they stay around.
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| Posted: Thursday March 22nd, 2007 10:26 pm |
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skippster123 Member
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I have to report that the more I read up on this idea of meeting a Russian woman the more paranoid I become. As I said, I have had two girls from match.com that have been emailing me. Turbo suggests that I discount them as fraudulent. I have no expectations, and no emotional involvment. One of them, I think is real. She has been telling me she's a doctor and already has plans to come to US with a group of other doctors for a one year exchange program. I am near NYC. I told her to call me when she gets here and I'd take her out for dinner. She has been very detailed in telling me about her plans, going to so far as to email me a copy of her passport. It's looks as real as mine. This one I giving the benefit of the doubt that she's real. She asked for my phone number. I gave it to her. I didn't give my address though. She writes me once every 4 or 5 days not every day. She sounds real. What to you guys think? She not as attractive as the one described below. And she's about 3 or 4 yrs older in her passport photo than the other photos she's sent so she must be real. The other one of them is gorgeous. She keeps sending me pictures, saying how much she loves me, and wants to come see me. She just started asking me for money. I've told "her" probably some 300 lb fat guy that look like a mafia hit man, I have no intention of sending money. I said if she's real I'd pay half of the return fare if she can get a visa which she can't get. I offered to call or meet in Riga if she could prove she's real. I am not getting answers to my questions. So she's a fraud. Too bad because she's really hot.
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