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Posted: Saturday February 25th, 2006 03:50 pm |
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IMBRA regs as a deterrent to AMs’ dreams…
Perhaps you have heard or not that on March 6th 2006 the U.S. International Marriage Broker Regulation Act (IMBRA) will go into effect. I can go on and on about the politics behind this true piece of work, however, I will not bore my members with my soap box.
The end result is that clients of marriage agencies and the like will have to ante up their personal dossier in exchange for the contact info of that Smokinhotkokova profile. More hoops to jump in an already difficult endeavor. IMO, it will detour some but not many that are truly driven. The draw of true love and dreams of a lifetime can certainly not be abated by some additional red tape.
For one to make that leap of faith in choosing to look to the far corners of the world in search for their one and only, it requires a person that’s a little off the edge... perhaps someone who would dare against the odds (or all odds). Those who would attempt to create barriers between any man and his RW just makes the man’s desire more intense and personal. If there is a delineation to be made it will be the separation of the chaff from the wheat. Only those that are true to this quest will go on. To them I tip my hat and cheer them on to thwart those who would put a damper on their pursuit of happiness.
Certainly this is an attempt to strip personal rights of privacy from those who dare not partake of relationships with AW. For most AM it is true that once you are smitten by a RW you will never go back to an AW… ever. I have been looking for happiness for the better part of my life and now I have found it. Each day is a gift and a joy. I know that regardless of what happens in the future there will always be RW.
More on-site updates can be found in the Fiancee Paperwork Forum. For those that desire a detailed account of the law, click (here) for off site link.
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Last edited on Thursday August 17th, 2006 06:39 am by ronin1
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Posted: Monday February 27th, 2006 01:15 am |
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My first post. Nice board you have here Ronin.
Umbra is going to affect allot of men. Many decent men have a mark or two in their backgrounds. A protective order issued for a ex-wife to bolster her custody or divorce claim as example. Perhaps a pot possession charge from their youth or a reckless driving with an arrest.
My main concern with this law is in the implimentation of it. The USCIS makes up it's regulations from these laws and it is in these regs that further restrictions and impediments to getting a visa for a fiancee or spouse can occur.
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 03:45 pm |
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Ok, IMBRA has been in effect now for just over a year. I am curious how much changes in the practice of K-1 Visa approvals has there really been.
Now everyone must state if they met through a MOB agency but other than a line to fill out on the 129-F nothing further seems to be said about it.
Now everyone must file for a waver if they have had two K-1's or one K-1 in less than two years but everyone seems to get approved.
The biggest thing I see is Administrative Reviews seem to be very common and can last a long long time. I am caught up in one now and it sucks.
I still think IMBRA is the worst law passed in ages and that it is unconstitutional and infringes on our freedom but my feelings aren't worth the powder to blow them up becuase K-1's are too much of a minority.
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Posted: Saturday March 17th, 2007 10:58 pm |
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I don't have a happy answer to your situation turboguy, but let me tell about a situation that has changed my mind about IMBRA and why I now support it.
At seemingly the last minute, Natalia was inundated with contacts from other Russian women either in Texas in our area, RW's who arrived through Houston, or women who are soon to arrive. One such lady was arriving in Moscow the same day Natalia was leaving so they didn't get a chance to meet in person. This lady was coming for her medical and her interview. Her plan then was to return to her city, give the required 2 weeks resignation notice and on the end of March, arrive to Texas, Spring to be exact, where Natalia and I had our original address.
Well, her boy friend writes her and tells her that too many of his family, too many of his neighbors and too many of his co-workers think this Russian Wife thing is not a good idea, so maybe she should not come. It gets worse from there.
Turns out that in the documentation, courtesy of IMBRA was the little tid-bit that he had a previously approved K-1 that somehow he failed to mention to her. This lady only knew this bit of info for less than a month at this point and all of her emails and phone conversations where she attempted to ask him about this situation only resulted in "much swearing."
The lady contacted the Embassy and informed them she was not coming in, their response was basically, why, this is a long and expensive process, why stop now? She forwarded to the Embassy all the correspondence she had from this jerk and now the Embassy has stopped her visa application. She is now taking a vacation to heal a broken heart.
I know where this butthead lives, but Tim and Natalia have restrained me from going over and having a few "words" with this sleazeball.
So turboguy, sorry you have to endure what you are now enduring, but the slime is still oozing out from under the rocks and it is no telling how long it will take to clean things up.
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David & Natalia
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Posted: Sunday March 18th, 2007 09:39 pm |
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DW, I think there are good parts of IMBRA. There is just an awful lot I don't like about it.
First, it descriminates agaist those of us who want to look for a wife in another country. If we have to have background checks should everyone who wants to meet someone on the internet have to do the same.
Second, They hardly had the ink flowing before they got to the part about everyone having a right to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness. Isn't wanting a wife the persuit of happiness. (even if it always does not end up that way) I just think it is a violation of my rights for someone in DC to tell me how many mistakes I can make along the way or how long I have to wait or even if I can marry the person I want. I am not talking about women with criminal backgrouds, or infectious diseases. I know one guy who married a Thai lady in 1998. She cheated on him and they divorced in 2000. He then had a failed K-1. He married again about 2004 and for whatever reason it did not work. Is it fair to tell him that if he wants to marry he can only marry an American woman? To me it is not. Yes, if he beat them it would be another story. He just had some mistakes and bad breaks.
I won't say there are not some bad situations that go on. I think it is more common with asian women than Russain ones. I think asian women are thought of as being more submissive and that tends to attract some more dominant types of men. Anyone who thinks he is going to dominate a Russian gal is going to get some big surprises.
Why should an agency based in America have to do so much more than one who has no offices here. Shouldn't we be trying to encourage business here not making it nearly impossible for them?
Sorry about your friend, that sucks.
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Posted: Monday March 26th, 2007 05:06 am |
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Turboguy,
I agree with you completely. However, the point is that they are not preventing anyone from getting married... it's a potential visa restriction and right to privacy that I see as a problem. I think IMBRA will ultimately be found unconstitutional. In the mean time it is best to take as much cover as possible to avoid being pre-Supreme Court ruling road-kill.
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Posted: Thursday November 13th, 2008 09:50 am |
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dwfunk wrote: I don't have a happy answer to your situation turboguy, but let me tell about a situation that has changed my mind about IMBRA and why I now support it.
At seemingly the last minute, Natalia was inundated with contacts from other Russian women either in Texas in our area, RW's who arrived through Houston, or women who are soon to arrive. One such lady was arriving in Moscow the same day Natalia was leaving so they didn't get a chance to meet in person. This lady was coming for her medical and her interview. Her plan then was to return to her city, give the required 2 weeks resignation notice and on the end of March, arrive to Texas, Spring to be exact, where Natalia and I had our original address.
Well, her boy friend writes her and tells her that too many of his family, too many of his neighbors and too many of his co-workers think this Russian Wife thing is not a good idea, so maybe she should not come. It gets worse from there.
Turns out that in the documentation, courtesy of IMBRA was the little tid-bit that he had a previously approved K-1 that somehow he failed to mention to her. This lady only knew this bit of info for less than a month at this point and all of her emails and phone conversations where she attempted to ask him about this situation only resulted in "much swearing."
The lady contacted the Embassy and informed them she was not coming in, their response was basically, why, this is a long and expensive process, why stop now? She forwarded to the Embassy all the correspondence she had from this jerk and now the Embassy has stopped her visa application. She is now taking a vacation to heal a broken heart.
I know where this butthead lives, but Tim and Natalia have restrained me from going over and having a few "words" with this sleazeball.
So turboguy, sorry you have to endure what you are now enduring, but the slime is still oozing out from under the rocks and it is no telling how long it will take to clean things up.
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David & Natalia
Republic of Texas/ Moscow, Russia
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16th World Spacemodeling Championships
What an idiot...he listened to his 'friends and family' over his heart.
My high-school friend Ben was like that. He'd let people talk him out of dating a cute girl who wanted to date him, and by the time he figured out that she IS actually what he wanted, she'd be pissed at him and wouldn't speak to him.
I'm sure everyone has done boneheaded things though. This guy will be KICKING himself when he's divorced from the AW his 'friends' set him up with.
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