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| Posted: Tuesday January 31st, 2006 07:01 am |
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ronin1 Administrator 
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All active moderators as of the recent change of ownership in the RWG, will be guaranteed a mod position at this site. Please PM or email me and let me know which areas you want to cover. Ronin
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| Posted: Tuesday January 31st, 2006 04:39 pm |
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KenC Member
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Ronin, Nice format here. Very clean and simple. I wish you all the luck in making this successful forum. I enjoyed your posts on RWG for a long time. I a curious as to why you started this forum. What do you hope to do differently than RWG or RWD? What are your goals? Feel free to repost this in a more appropriate section. KenC
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| Posted: Tuesday January 31st, 2006 10:39 pm |
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Bunker Mulligan Member
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KenC wrote:What do you hope to do differently than RWG or RWD? I was curious about the same thing, but I've been reading the RWG for awhile and have seen the restrictiveness being asserted there, and there is also a movement on the RWD by Dan to curtail freeedom of expression there as well. Perhaps Ron would like a place where he can tell the unvarnished truth without fear of being slapped down by management. IMHO, it is difficult to discuss relationships with, and of, different cultures without bringing in the good and bad things about that, and our, different cultures. Understand, if you will, not every RW is all sweetness and light, my own sweet wife can be a handful at times. There will be conflicts, you can bank on that.
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| Posted: Wednesday February 1st, 2006 12:30 am |
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Senna Member
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The link to this site has been up in RWG the entire day, so I think that's a gesture of good will between the boards.
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| Posted: Wednesday February 1st, 2006 04:26 am |
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ronin1 Administrator
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Hello, IMO, Bunker has my general thought. I would like to take this board to a new place. That place will be determined by the mods that will reside here. Many of you know my character already. I will try to make myself clear without references to the 'other ' boards. Every board has a personality. I would like this board to reflect the personalities of those mods that were slain in ambush and betrayal at the 'you know who' board. I say this because they didn't deserve the bums rush out the door. As a moderator, I see it clearly that a board in the RW realm requires mods that have strength of character and well reasoned words to get through to the new members... those that are, shall we say battle hardened and well seasoned in the art of RW and the pursuit thereof. In truth, the success of any board boils down to the quality and knowledge of its mods and members. My current motivation has to do with honour. I respect all the mods I have worked with and I will not see their efforts and knowledge go unrecognized in a waste heap of some cyber alley. In short, I would like to infuse the forum with well heeled, cream of the crop, top of the heap RW experienced moderators. With that starting knowledge base (foundation), new members will come. That is why they are here... to learn what we and others have experienced so that they can make the best decisions possible. Ronin P.S. I will create a new forum for forum concerns.
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| Posted: Wednesday February 1st, 2006 03:21 pm |
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Bunker Mulligan Member
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I certainly wish you well in this endeavor. However, in reading some of the old RWG, there were a few moderators I think I would prefer to stay shy of. For example, if Cameraguy were an active moderator here I'm sure it would only be a matter of time before he and I would cross swords. This would not be beneficial for your new board, so for the time being I think I will just observe and not contribute very much. Good luck with getting this off the ground.
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| Posted: Wednesday February 1st, 2006 04:11 pm |
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KenC Member
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Ronin, I, like you, feel for the way the mods were treated on RWG. I also feel that the mods were the cream of the crop as far as information sources and experience with regard to pursuing a RW. However, at this point you have little need for moderation. The much greater need here, as I see it, is for contributors and active members. To look for moderators at this point, is putting the horse before the cart now, isn't it? KenC
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| Posted: Wednesday February 1st, 2006 11:18 pm |
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Jetlag Member
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All I can hope for is this site doesn't get involved with crossboard bickerings. It's quite unbecoming, and frankly, boring. I hope this board does exercise the intent of strictly sharing relative experiences about the challenges of cross-cultural relationship. I am hoping that petty trivialities will not find a home here. We are not little boys anymore.
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| Posted: Thursday February 2nd, 2006 06:12 am |
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ronin1 Administrator
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KenC, Cart and horse... perhaps. Still, it can be done in parallel. There are things that I'm working on that may achieve both. Nevertheless all of it will take time...and time will tell in the end. Ronin
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| Posted: Thursday February 2nd, 2006 11:53 pm |
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ronin1 Administrator
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Jetlag, Bickering between boards is something to be avoided, however bare in mind that I just came from another board and devoiding myself from it will take some time. Besides that, occasionally new members will bring into play inter-board controversies. In this case, well moderated fourms can keep the bickering to a minimum. Ronin
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| Posted: Friday February 3rd, 2006 12:54 am |
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Jetlag Member
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KenC wrote: Ronin,  Now I'm really confused. Let me see horse, cart...no, cart, horse. Naw, that doesn't look right either. What if I turn the horse around facing the cart...Whoa! Something's still wrong with this picture...Help! Ronin, yes of course. So long as it's realized that such bickerings doesn't get bigger than the objective. Your site have an opportunity to excel above everyone else's by it's example.
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| Posted: Friday February 3rd, 2006 03:32 am |
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KenC Member
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 OK OK Cart before horse, yeah, that's the ticket! KenC
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| Posted: Sunday February 5th, 2006 10:58 am |
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Splashmaster Member
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pretty quiet at this time to need mods, I agree, but not a bad idea to have something in place from the start so things are done the same way right from day 1, instead of several years into things, having a crack down. We lost quite a few of our old-timers when the mods were in place, because absolute free-reign and clue bats were no longer tolerated to the extent they were. Count me in Ron, I will help as much as I can. Splash
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| Posted: Sunday February 5th, 2006 05:10 pm |
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ronin1 Administrator
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Splashmaster, Welcome aboard and thanks for your support. You are right. Perhaps moderating is little needed now. It will be light duty for a mod right at this time. Perhaps, having the support of the old crew (such as yourself) is more important. You've made my day! For those that don't know,  Splashmaster has been married to a RW for several years. He is an experienced and well regarded moderator in the RW forum community.Ronin
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| Posted: Monday February 6th, 2006 03:55 am |
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DonAz Member
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Ronin, I want to wish all the best with your forum. In my opinion, very few can match your insight and knowledge of Russian Women. You possess a wonderful ability to articulate your posts on this subject. I have found your comments and advise to be both reasonable and well thought out. Over the year you have generously provided your guidance to many guys. I am not here to make apologies for anyone but to commend you for all you have done. I do wish events of the recent past were different however my wishes have no bearing on the reality of the situation. We are where we are.. and that’s that. I would hope that over time this board and the several others in the RW community will see that we all have but one untied goal. That is the pursuit by Western men to create a wonderful life with a Lady of the Former Soviet Union. If we lose sight of that mission then the boards become nothing more then a collection of bar brawls or circle jerks. With most discussions centering on how good one sounds to their own selves. I’ve never noticed you to get into those kinds of discussions That is another reasons you have my admiration. I now have a wonderful life with my wife Yulia and my only agenda is to be able to pass on some things that I know about this process to those who wish to follow in this endeavor. Politics, hostilities and taking sides is not in the cards for me. I have no interest in any of that. I’ll do whatever I can to help others in this process. I don’t think that I will post here much, being that I have other commitments. But I would like to say one thing to the newcomer who finds their way here,. Ronin has succeeded where many have failed in this endeavor. Take what he may say seriously and you will not go wrong. All the best! DonAz
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| Posted: Monday February 20th, 2006 03:27 am |
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Cameraguy Member
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Bunker Mulligan wrote:I've been reading the RWG for awhile and have seen the restrictiveness being asserted there, and there is also a movement on the RWD by Dan to curtail freeedom of expression there as well. Perhaps Ron would like a place where he can tell the unvarnished truth without fear of being slapped down by management... Strange, I don't recall a "Bunker Mulligan" being a member of any RW board. I wonder why he's using a new handle to take cheap shots at them and me? I've read some of "Bunker's" posts. His writing style, advice and unique idiosynchrocies look rather familiar. If it's who I think it is, then other boards, management, moderators and an inability to tell "the unvarnished truth" aren't the problem -- it's just another attempt to rewrite history. When you threaten a moderator (not me) with bodily harm over disagreements on an internet forum, get banned from a board for repeatedly refusing to follow the rules of posting and are forced into early retirement by one of the world's largest, most profitable (and corrupt) companies, it's time to stop blaming others and take a long hard look at yourself. If "Bunker's" IP doesn't resolve to the Corpus Christi area, then I apologize for confusing him with someone else. ~CG
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| Posted: Wednesday February 22nd, 2006 02:37 am |
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Senna Member
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Cameraguy ~ you are quite the Internet sleuth, and 100% correct about JB Mulligan. So, does this mean he's not welcome here?
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| Posted: Wednesday February 22nd, 2006 04:01 am |
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Cameraguy Member
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Not welcome? That's not for me to decide -- it's not my board. I just felt that taking a swipe at me under an assumed name on Ronin's new board was uncalled for, especially after posting "Sometimes old enemies make the best of friends. Welcome CG", on another forum. If you want friends (or at least want to bury a hatchet), I can think of better ways. BTW Senna (aka "GC" and "RX" elsewhere?),  I honestly don't understand why anyone would help moderate or even participate in a forum that's controlled by an ethically-challenged "Big 3" mega-agency that prints money at the expense of naive guys (and who's not even honest enough to admit that they bought RWG.) Not a criticism -- just my opinion.Oh yeah, one more thing -- the "~" in ~CG is patented.  ~CG
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| Posted: Wednesday February 22nd, 2006 06:09 am |
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ronin1 Administrator
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Senna et al, All are welcome and have a new start here... even JB. The emphasis at the RussianWomanPrimer.com is to help the beginners with RW. Many other sites have grown so large in content that those starting out can't get past the in fighting of personalities to find what they need. The experienced posters often have strong personalities (difficult to be successfully married to a RW/UW without developing one). I'm in the hope that at the RussianWomanPrimer everyone can start over and return to assisting those that are serious in this endeavor. I don't mind having the unvarnished truth posted here as long as everyone understands that truth is relative to many. As such everyone should maintain a reasonable tolerance as well as a thick skin with the POV of others. The beginners that we are trying to help will not be receptive to the "experts" if they are to busy combating other POVs by force of will. State and debate ones positon and leave it up to beginners to take what they may. Ronin Last edited on Friday November 24th, 2006 09:12 pm by ronin1 |
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| Posted: Wednesday February 22nd, 2006 08:09 pm |
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Senna Member
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Cameraguy wrote: I honestly don't understand why anyone would help moderate or even participate in a forum that's controlled by an ethically-challenged "Big 3" mega-agency that prints money at the expense of naive guys (and who's not even honest enough to admit that they bought RWG.) Not a criticism -- just my opinion.For me its an opportunity to help out the guys who may be new to all of this - like I, and for that matter, you once were. Honestly, I don't have a "favorite" forum, I like to read/post in several and I don't show favoritism to any. If this one 'takes off' I would hope I would be welcomed to do the same here. If the commercial aspects of the RWG ownership begins to overwhelm its content, which to date it has not, then I will simply look elsewhere. You obviously know a lot more about the owner(s) than me, but are least for the present it is a nice place to hang out. I really don't give a damn who owns what or why unless it starts to slants the content in an unfair direction. Heck, if the past RWG mods were all that sensitive about commercialism, they wouldn't have worked with a guy whose only apparent interest in RW was as a vehicle for making a profit. I'm even idealistic to think RWG/RMP/RWD and now RWP all can co-exist nicely with each filling a niche of the FSU scene. RMP seems more about travel and culture, RWD is for the "graduates" and RWG for the newbies. What RWP will become, I don't know, but I am very impressed with the quality of the posts . I wish I could write so well!
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| Posted: Thursday February 23rd, 2006 12:08 am |
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Cameraguy Member
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Senna wrote:Heck, if the past RWG mods were all that sensitive about commercialism, they wouldn't have worked with a guy whose only apparent interest in RW was as a vehicle for making a profit. Well, I think you know that's not exactly true. Spencer did have an interest at various times during the time he owned RWG. And I don't object to making a profit, as long as it's done without scamming or deceiving people. Also, RWG was non-commercial for years. The addition of sponsors (which I initially opposed) allowed RWG to continually improve and expand from being little more than a simple BBS to become the most popular, informative and probably unparalleled RW forum on the internet. I'm even idealistic to think RWG/RMP/RWD and now RWP all can co-exist nicely with each filling a niche of the FSU scene. RMP seems more about travel and culture, RWD is for the "graduates" and RWG for the newbies. I agree there's room for a variety of boards and opinions. RWD would like people to believe they're representative of the "graduates" -- they do in fact have some experienced, knowledgable members who've been married for a number of years. But they weren't even in RWG's league (at least before the European Connections takeover.) It takes years before a "deep bench" of loyal and experienced posters like Neo, Jooky, Jay Patches, B/B, Bean, AJ, Jet, Ronin, Splash, Wineglass, MarkInTx, Andyuk, Lissy, Facetrock, Muckraker, Ielocal, Stirlitz, Wesley Spence, etc., etc., is formed (not to mention the valuable perspectives from all the RW and agency owners -- there's been so many excellent posters over the years, I can only name a few.) The sale of RWG and the onerous new IMBRA regulations that take effect next month truly represents the end of an era -- one that I'm proud to have contributed to and experienced since my first visit to the Soviet Union in 1988. ~CG
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| Posted: Thursday February 23rd, 2006 04:06 am |
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Senna Member
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Cameraguy wrote: On this point I would never disagree. You guys (actually I was there in '94, just didn't post on the internet) were part of an era that sadly has passed. So what to make of it? And, about Spencer - say what you want, it was always a biz for him... not necessarily that was a bad thing - you were just true to your heart, others could see it was about making $$$... something about not having a RW wife or never traveling to the FSU (don’t know if that part was correct). So, Mr. Cameraguy, where do we all go from here? Should we pose as newbies and have some fun with the new RWG? Should we battle it out in the NHB, or yeah, make that the SHB (some holds barred), or the NHB (there will be no holds tolerated) section of RWD? Surely the guys from '88 have something to offer to the new guys, while at the same time having fun around the 'pickle barrel' at RWD?? That list of yours is stellar if for no other reason that the number of posts. As you know many (for example Westly, AJ, ie, jb, me, B/B, Stirlitz, Lissy, and some others are still active on RWG. I keep my options open. I admire Ron for what he has done so far on RussianWomanPrimer. What the future will bring... I dunno. p.s. I don't think the IMBRA regs will amount to c**p. Someday look over the gadzillions of rules the USCIS has and see if more than 1% have ever been enforced. Last edited on Friday November 24th, 2006 09:15 pm by ronin1 |
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| Posted: Monday February 27th, 2006 10:29 pm |
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Maxx Member
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Damn! and I thought I was the king of biggest failures! - - But 18 years pursuing RW and not even an engagement?! Maxx
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| Posted: Thursday March 2nd, 2006 06:33 am |
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Cameraguy Member
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Maxx wrote:Damn! and I thought I was the king of biggest failures! - Maxx, you missed the heyday -- back in '88, the early teen daughters of an oblast governor would look at me like I was Matt Damon! ~CG
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| Posted: Thursday March 2nd, 2006 04:49 pm |
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Maxx Member
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When I seen the notice of a responce to this post I thought "I hope CG knows I'm just pulling his chain!"Maxx, you missed the heyday -- back in '88, the early teen daughters of an oblast governor would look at me like I was Matt Damon! I always thought you looked like Richard Gere from that on photo you sent me.  Kansas City Richard says "Richard Simmons" but I think he is just being mean!
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