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ronin1
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Posted: Sunday December 31st, 2006 06:06 am |
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When is a Russian Woman Serious…
One of the greatest challenges to many WM is in finding out if a RW is serious or not. Much has been written on the subject and much more will be written. There are a world of reasons for a RW to not be serious. Here are some of the most common real concerns that RW many have that will keep her for being serious:
- Lived too long in Russia.
- Feels that they can’t cope with being transplanted.
- Feels that their children won’t be able to cope with being transplanted.
- Has extensive family and friends in Russia.
- Has extensive holding in Russia.
- Holds a high esteem career and in a new country will lose all that.
Reasons that are a couple of shades of gray:
- Why go to a new land when I can skim money & goods off of visiting WM.
- My RM boy friend tells me that it is the best way to get our “BLANK”…
- Sure I have opened my options to include WM, until I find someone better.
- As long as they will sponsor me I will go along with this sham relationship.
- I tired of men messing up my life. I will be a GCG & control my own destiny.
To counter this, there are also many reasons to make them very serious:
- I’m getting too old for RM to be serious about me.
- I’m getting too old to have a baby.
- I have very little friends and family to hold me in Russia.
- I have no holdings in Russia to speak of.
- I don’t have a credible career to speak of.
- I’m tired of RM using me. I’ll show them that I’m worth more than they will ever know.
- I don’t want my child to be drafted in the military.
- I don’t want my child to be hurt by failed relationships in Russia.
- I can’t live like this forever in Russia.
The best situation is to find a RW what has every motive to leave and no reason to stay. The next best thing is to find a RW that comes close.
This is the reason for not getting too emotionally involved with any one RW from the beginning. There are enough landmines out there to emotionally and/or financially cripple every WM for a long time. Need to have one’s head screwed on tight to be able to separate the chaff from the wheat.
So how is it done? It’s not an easy task. The first and foremost thing is that one has to listen to his gut feelings based on what the RW does. One must awaken that primal male instinctual noggin that has laid dormant in most modern WM. Then, one needs to almost totally disregard what the RW says and go by what she does… let no small detail go unnoticed.
As a whole, RW are not very good at being mis-leading or devious. It is the WM that is best at deceiving himself. It is often a WM’s desire or one-way chemistry that blinds him to the warning signs. Emotions or the goal to not return home without a fiancée is a sure way to rationalize the red flags away that are continually slapping a WM in the face.
In short, if you can trust her motives you can trust the RW. At least this will be a sign that a relationship is even possible. If a RW doesn’t have the right motives her efforts will not seem whole-hearted and she will only expend the minimum that is required… in her thinking.
I have repeated it many times, if a RW is into you, there will be no questioning it. It will be as plain as day to the WM. It will be as clear as a RW’s eyes.
Ronin
Last edited on Monday July 16th, 2007 07:06 am by ronin1
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Posted: Wednesday June 27th, 2007 05:57 pm |
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Hello ron i would like to say my Tatyana is very serious about marriage as i read her email i got from her today she has gone threw the process of getting a tourist visa to see me. I thought the only way for her to come to the USA is that she had to get a financee visa. I also thought i had to visit her in russia at least once. Don't get me wrong i am glad that she wants to come here to USA and see me. She told me that she need me to give her my full name address and the airport that i will pick her up at and she is going thru an agency i don't know which one though.
Thanks Matthew
PS any info would be great ASAP
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Posted: Thursday June 28th, 2007 08:43 pm |
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Hello all it freddy again
I just wanted to add is it hard for her to get a tourist visa to come to the states again dont get me wrong i would to see her come here but i'm afraid she will be upset if she doesn't get approved for the tourist visa. I would also like to know if there is a certain place that she and i can go visit each other with out going threw the process of geting a visa. I read somewhere you can do something like that correct me if i am wrong please. I would like this to happen between us. The last email i got today she really wants to meet very much as i said i want this also to happen.
Thanks for your time
PS when i find out more i will let you know
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Posted: Friday June 29th, 2007 06:19 am |
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Freddy,
I caught your 3rd post in another thread. Hope that I have directed you to some helpful hints.
As of the questions that you ask in this thread. There is one of two possibilities. one is more likely and it's not what you want to hear... so i will start out with the good news.
Yes, Russian women can get tourist visits. However there are many hoops a RW has to go through to get one, especially a young gorgeous RW since they would be considered a high risk of not returning to their homeland. However, young RW do get tourist visas. The typical profile for these very special girls are that:
1) They have a very high assets and income in their homeland. Real estate, hard currency, stocks, trust fund, etc. (in other words they are well off even by our stands).
2) They have had many visas to Western Europe or a previous visa to the US.
3) They have strong family ties.
If they can prove all the above, then they can get a tourist visa on their own standing. Unfortunately , if they do qualify on their own standing, it is very unlikely that they are looking for a WM. The fact that she is asking for your address assumes that she needs it to uses your house as place to stay, (she can't afford a hotel) which negates the idea that she fulfills item #1.
Even if she is the real deal, there's another problem. You have already talked about the possibility of marriage and the visit is part of that process. If you and Tatiana do get married in the States (there's nothing that can prevent you two from doing that), she will have to return to her homeland at the end for her tourist visa. Then you will have to submit a petition to get her back into the US by virtue of her being your wife. This is the problem. It is possible that such a petition can be denied on the grounds of fraud since the intent for her visit to the US was for marriage and not tourism. If this happens, you will be in a nightmare of red tape trying to be reunited with your wife.
The odds are more likely that this is a scam. She will at the last minute find some plausible excuse for you to send her some money. Perhaps she will say that there is a fee that she wasn't aware of and she left here credit cards and checks at home.
About neutral territories... I have a thread that states my views on that and I don't recommend it for most WM. Off the top of my head, RW can get visas to Turkey Egypt, and Greece with very little effort. You can try that.
Hope that helps.
Ronin
Additional info - Forum thread on Tips on How to Get a Tourist Visa (works for girl friends as well as in-laws)
Last edited on Saturday June 30th, 2007 06:44 pm by ronin1
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Posted: Friday June 29th, 2007 05:49 pm |
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Have you checked her out as to the truth of who she is? Has she sent you hard copy photos? An address to a home or apartment? Has she sent you a hard copy letter back with cancled postage from her hometown? Have you sent her flowers and had her photo taken at her mailing address by a trustworthy person? Have you called her phone number and heard her voice (even if translated)?
These are all the things I'd do to ensure I have the right person. I too have had emails, unsolicited, and when it comes time to get a photo from a 3rd party, a home address or phone number where she can be reached the emails stop. Then it was a scam.
So take heed and read these postings about scams very well before you take one step further.
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